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Brigand bomber
Offline Lunaphase
11-13-2011, 11:54 PM,
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Since most of the people calling me an idiot appear to not be able to read. Look at jinx's post. Brigand bomber is a HUGE target compared to all the bombers shown. The bombers shown have medium powerplants.

TL/DR: Brigand bomber is too big for a light plant, to maintain parity with all other bombers.

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Offline dodike
11-14-2011, 12:00 AM,
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' Wrote:Since most of the people calling me an idiot appear to not be able to read. Look at jinx's post. Brigand bomber is a HUGE target compared to all the bombers shown. The bombers shown have medium powerplants.

TL/DR: Brigand bomber is too big for a light plant, to maintain parity with all other bombers.
All bombers are huge compared to Kaichou and RM bomber.

What's your point?

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Offline Lunaphase
11-14-2011, 12:02 AM,
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Kaichu is tiny? What? Have you SEEN the thing? Reguardless, our bomber is bigger than our opponents, slower, and smaller plant. Im merely raising attention to an issue of parity between opposing sides. Look at the GRN bomber. Look at the brigand bomber. Im not a fan of flying a ship thats suicidal to fly seriously.

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Offline dodike
11-14-2011, 12:07 AM,
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' Wrote:Kaichu is tiny? What? Have you SEEN the thing? Reguardless, our bomber is bigger than our opponents, slower, and smaller plant. Im merely raising attention to an issue of parity between opposing sides. Look at the GRN bomber. Look at the brigand bomber. Im not a fan of flying a ship thats suicidal to fly seriously.
Kaichou is one of the smallest bombers in the mod.
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Offline Pinko
11-14-2011, 12:18 AM,
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' Wrote:Since most of the people calling me an idiot appear to not be able to read. Look at jinx's post. Brigand bomber is a HUGE target compared to all the bombers shown. The bombers shown have medium powerplants.

TL/DR: Brigand bomber is too big for a light plant, to maintain parity with all other bombers.

Anyone called you an idiot here? No, thought so. They gave valid counter-arguments and you took offense over them, that's what happened.

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.
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Offline aerelm
11-14-2011, 12:19 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-14-2011, 12:21 AM by aerelm.)
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It's actually funny how you keep changing the base of your argument in a desperate attempt to look right. First you come in and say Brigand bomber has SHF planet and thus is underpowered, while having a Mafic plant would be considered as an advantage for a light bomber. Then, you twist it and say your point was that the Jaguar isn't as effective as it should against Valors so it must get a powercore buff, and then, after people prove that argument wrong as well, you twist it once more and say from the very beginning you were pointing out that the issue with that vessel is the size.

The comparison shot Jinx posted in flawed, because it compares a 'regular' bomber to two of the best bombers (Snubnose, which is the smallest bomber and even smaller than the Odin, it's opponent VHF & the Kaichou, which is one of the smallest and fastest med bombers). Also, the Cougar might have higher hull and firepower, but it's handling is much worse cause of the worse response time and sluggish handling. So in simple, Cougar might be smaller, but it'd have a much harder time dodging the hostile fire compared to the Jaguar.

And to sum it up - If you think Jaguar is crap, you obviously have no idea about flying bombers. If you want to know what 'suicidal' means, go try out the Thor, then you'll see Jaguar is just a decent bomber all around... For the record, you can go ahead and compare the Jaguar to Falcata, Havok and Pytho so you'll see the Jaguar is actually smaller than some of the most common light bombers and thus your argument is invalid. However, just because your argument about the Jaguar being underpowered is invalid, you can't expect it to be the best bomber ingame. Sure, it's just an average bomber and in no way the 'pwnmachine' you want it to be, but that doesn't mean it in any way needs a nerf.
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Offline Jansen
11-14-2011, 12:22 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-14-2011, 12:23 AM by Jansen.)
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' Wrote:Since most of the people calling me an idiot appear to not be able to read. Look at jinx's post. Brigand bomber is a HUGE target compared to all the bombers shown. The bombers shown have medium powerplants.

TL/DR: Brigand bomber is too big for a light plant, to maintain parity with all other bombers.

Please look at the Orchids front profile then, its hardly smaller then the Jaguar, while having the light bomber plant as well. I have yet to hear someone complaining about that ships stats.
Aerelm is right about the Cougar, because that is really a not so great bomber.

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Offline Echo 7-7
11-14-2011, 01:01 AM,
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' Wrote:there are also light bombers that are significantly larger than the brigand bomber ( FA bomber is large, BHG bomber is large, roc is large, havoc is huge... )

I want a buff for the Havoc q_q

' Wrote:The Brigands are not. They're more like Rogues, building scrapped stuff with scrap in scrap fields with no ship yards. Heck, the Rogues got a shipyard, the Brigands do not. They gotta build their ships with no support in space. That's how desperate they are. The Council won't let them field anything larger than a spatioport planetside to prevent from having a Criminal empire forming against them.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's funny, I swear I saw a Brigand battleship out there somewhere. Are you sure you have your facts right?

There was a sig here, once.
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Offline Pinko
11-14-2011, 01:03 AM,
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' Wrote:I want a buff for the Havoc q_q
Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's funny, I swear I saw a Brigand battleship out there somewhere. Are you sure you have your facts right?

True story. The Battleship is a SRP.

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.
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