Corsair - Zoner

[Jeremy Hunter]

This is why we can't have nice things:sleep:

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[Charos]

Angry duck is staring at you Vito, do not provoke her!

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Remember our fallen, we are the Legion.

[Sir_Now]

I suggest we start this discussion over again from page 1 :D

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Yohoo

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Well again my posts ignored or don't care! No problem maybe some can read this and think before what some IDs say!

Do you all remember some time ago, let's say a bit after the first Zoner - Corsair war? There was all quiet but ... not far .. on Delta a new war! BHG vs Zoners and Order. Do you remember? I do! I was there on the first fight that "lead" to war, like the BHG said, and shot then after FP11 started to fire against BHG Core ships .. yes it did! Later ...a lot a fuss .. on forum and even in game .. bla bla .. "you did that and that" a lot of screenshots on forum and all that .. and there was a another combat and that one i wasn't there! But i saw all reports and images and talked to alot players! And on that combat the BHG went to FP11 in full power and found a lot of Zoners and Order ships and ... the BHG was losing! Yes they were losing until ... a fleet of Corsairs showed and started to shoot Order and Zoners, and BHG won .. with the help of an unlawfull faction!!! Zoners complain but nothing was done!

And now i see some complain about BHG ships are raiding Gamma at the same time that the Hessians ... isn't history repeating itself but this time ... the sides are diferent! Funny isn't it?

Note: The stuff last year was official BHG faction. This time around it's NOT official BHG faction - the attacks in Gamma are not sanctioned by nor approved by the official faction. There shouldn't be any BHG|Core tagged ships taking part in those attacks. We no longer like the Corsairs like we did in the past - but we're also not raiding Gamma.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Riebezagel]

[...]:crazy:[...]

Damn, I must resist the urge to post :unsure:

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Corsairs - You're incredibly stupid.

[Doc Holliday]

It'd be excellent for the zoners and junkers in particular if they were able to set diplomacy on a station-by-station basis. Denying the OC docking rights in theta, while leaving them able to dock on FP6 and FP10, etc.

Joe, let's take this to the Admin section. I'd like to make this happen. It will then actually hold individual players accountable for the actions of the base they administrate.

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[Kaze Dagon]

Joe, let's take this to the Admin section. I'd like to make this happen. It will then actually hold individual players accountable for the actions of the base they administrate.

For that to happen, it means that there will have to be at least 8~10 new IFF's and ID's.
That's only for the Freeports and such.

Add that to the junkers.. You'll need like 5~7 more.

So it would be around 15 new IFF's and ID's.

Now for what little FL coding i know..

Just writing out the reputations of each new IFF to every faction ingame..

I pitty the devs that would have to do that.

Something to consider to .87, although.

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[Blodo]

Welp I love how people not only spread lies but outright insult folk despite knowing full well that they have done the same, and their faction is doing the same. I am looking at you [LN] ganking single pirates in NY with 5-6 fighters. Yep, such a big deal when it happens to you but not particularly when it doesn't. Really, I would love for people to just stop and take this kind of stuff as granted, because no matter what you do it will happen and it's better to just not hold anyone responsible because it's just part of the risk.

Sometimes you are outnumbered. Sometimes you are raided like hell. The RHA was being raided by RNC caps camping Freital and exchanging with ECG/Corsair indies for last 3 weeks before 4.86 release. I am talking constantly. There was no way to log in and just sit in Omega-7 for more than 5 mins before the spam came from either side. That was perfectly fine. Joe saw this with his TBH at least once (and possibly more in raids that I wasnt there to defend against), that was ALSO perfectly fine I suppose. I didn't see him lamenting how people were forced to sit by Freital which btw has nothing on Prox in O-91 when it comes to actually defending players that sit there from the cap spam/fighter spam (both are equally "bad" if we are to assume that ganking needs a response of extreme rage and pain on forums/skype). But once again the fight shifts to the other side, and when they start losing they make up a huge stink.

I find that truly silly and ridiculous.

On another note, here's some facts stated once again:

1. Hessians don't launch attacks from FP5. But there is no point in me saying this, because I will just be told that I lie even though it takes me exactly 1 minute more to fly from Freital on cruise all the way to Gamma in fighter or battleship, it makes no difference. And well, anyone who actually has a problem with that should look on his own hypocrisy. Like Dusty pointed out.

Also, it's not like the Hessians have a one way jump hole to Gamma from O-11. It takes the Corsairs 2 minutes to fly from Crete to Freital as well, and they have done it in the past. Should I make a 40 page Hessian - Corsair thread now or later?

2. The solution to split the Zoner faction was proposed I think 10 times in the past. Each and every time shot down or just not acted upon. Are we ready to do it yet, or still no?

3. Raids are not a bad thing.

4. PvP is not a bad thing.

5. I don't care about dying and neither should you.

6. I ran out of facts. For now. Make of it what you will.

[Kaze Dagon]

Welp I love how people not only spread lies but outright insult folk despite knowing full well that they have done the same, and their faction is doing the same. I am looking at you [LN] ganking single pirates in NY with 5-6 fighters. Yep, such a big deal when it happens to you but not particularly when it doesn't. Really, I would love for people to just stop and take this kind of stuff as granted, because no matter what you do it will happen and it's better to just not hold anyone responsible because it's just part of the risk.

Sometimes you are outnumbered. Sometimes you are raided like hell. The RHA was being raided by RNC caps camping Freital and exchanging with ECG/Corsair indies for last 3 weeks before 4.86 release. I am talking constantly. There was no way to log in and just sit in Omega-7 for more than 5 mins before the spam came from either side. That was perfectly fine. Joe saw this with his TBH at least once (and possibly more in raids that I wasnt there to defend against), that was ALSO perfectly fine I suppose. I didn't see him lamenting how people were forced to sit by Freital which btw has nothing on Prox in O-91 when it comes to actually defending players that sit there from the cap spam/fighter spam (both are equally "bad" if we are to assume that ganking needs a response of extreme rage and pain on forums/skype). But once again the fight shifts to the other side, and when they start losing they make up a huge stink.

I find that truly silly and ridiculous.

On another note, here's some facts stated once again:

1. Hessians don't launch attacks from FP5. But there is no point in me saying this, because I will just be told that I lie even though it takes me exactly 1 minute more to fly from Freital on cruise all the way to Gamma in fighter or battleship, it makes no difference. And well, anyone who actually has a problem with that should look on his own hypocrisy. Like Dusty pointed out.

Also, it's not like the Hessians have a one way jump hole to Gamma from O-11. It takes the Corsairs 2 minutes to fly from Crete to Freital as well, and they have done it in the past. Should I make a 40 page Hessian - Corsair thread now or later?

2. The solution to split the Zoner faction was proposed I think 10 times in the past. Each and every time shot down or just not acted upon. Are we ready to do it yet, or still no?

3. Raids are not a bad thing.

4. PvP is not a bad thing.

5. I don't care about dying and neither should you.

6. I ran out of facts. For now. Make of it what you will.

Le /signed.

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[Jeremy Hunter]

Welp I love how people not only spread lies but outright insult folk despite knowing full well that they have done the same, and their faction is doing the same. I am looking at you [LN] ganking single pirates in NY with 5-6 fighters. Yep, such a big deal when it happens to you but not particularly when it doesn't. Really, I would love for people to just stop and take this kind of stuff as granted, because no matter what you do it will happen and it's better to just not hold anyone responsible because it's just part of the risk.

Sometimes you are outnumbered. Sometimes you are raided like hell. The RHA was being raided by RNC caps camping Freital and exchanging with ECG/Corsair indies for last 3 weeks before 4.86 release. I am talking constantly. There was no way to log in and just sit in Omega-7 for more than 5 mins before the spam came from either side. That was perfectly fine. Joe saw this with his TBH at least once (and possibly more in raids that I wasnt there to defend against), that was ALSO perfectly fine I suppose. I didn't see him lamenting how people were forced to sit by Freital which btw has nothing on Prox in O-91 when it comes to actually defending players that sit there from the cap spam/fighter spam (both are equally "bad" if we are to assume that ganking needs a response of extreme rage and pain on forums/skype). But once again the fight shifts to the other side, and when they start losing they make up a huge stink.

I find that truly silly and ridiculous.

On another note, here's some facts stated once again:

1. Hessians don't launch attacks from FP5. But there is no point in me saying this, because I will just be told that I lie even though it takes me exactly 1 minute more to fly from Freital on cruise all the way to Gamma in fighter or battleship, it makes no difference. And well, anyone who actually has a problem with that should look on his own hypocrisy. Like Dusty pointed out.

Also, it's not like the Hessians have a one way jump hole to Gamma from O-11. It takes the Corsairs 2 minutes to fly from Crete to Freital as well, and they have done it in the past. Should I make a 40 page Hessian - Corsair thread now or later?

2. The solution to split the Zoner faction was proposed I think 10 times in the past. Each and every time shot down or just not acted upon. Are we ready to do it yet, or still no?

3. Raids are not a bad thing.

4. PvP is not a bad thing.

5. I don't care about dying and neither should you.

6. I ran out of facts. For now. Make of it what you will.

Fact 6: Blodo is king.

That is all.

/signed

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.