//Somebody add some comments on these, these are my top picks and most likely final selections until i think of something better.
//i realized half way through this i was too "involved" with the word Trafalgar, seems repetitive now, view for yourself....
Junkers Alliance
Trafalgar's Finest/Alliance
Trafalgar Junkers Assembly
Trafalgar High council
Trafalgar Salvage League
Trafalgar Junkers - Meh?
Junker Assembly
Junker Collective
Trafalgar Republic of Junkers
Junker Republic(an) Assembly
Junker Coalition
Junker Revolutionary Bloc
(Kevin is thinking hard and names are getting dumber, infact none come up from here on)
You'll, notice my highly defined Governmental Names, Bloc, Coaltion, Republic and so forth, however i do really have intent of forming a Breakaway republic for Trafalgar and its surrounding area, the Scrap field as it stands, creating a large Smuggling ring to support the Breakaway Republic whilst adding the Harvesters and enticing them to join the fray to "Harvest" Bretonian Soldiers and so forth, if they catch on and take the opportunity they would be adding to our Breakaway military forces, their capital ships and so forth would be opportunistic to our Fighter and bomber wings, we would also continue our Heritage by scrapping and salvaging the battle after it ensued, it would indeed increase the number of salvagers after the Breakaway if it turns bloody. (This is a quick rundown and is not entirely true to what i believe will happen, but i feel i needed to post this quickly so i can catch everyone who is on, Aswell this is very short once again its not very descriptive.)
I'd really like to know our situation on this, I know it may be far fetched, but really, People pissed off so bad by a Capitalistic situation, while propoganda inflates the matter more may lead to a new Republic, (Example, See Soviet Union) (Example See French Republic) (Example See America within its birth, Actual name escapes me) (See China's History from Democrats to Communism)
This all relates to it, maybe not all of them but they get close in some senses, so please give me some feedback, Community!
Junkers Alliance
Trafalgar Junkers Assembly
Trafalgar Salvage League
I like those.
Quote:You'll, notice my highly defined Governmental Names, Bloc, Coaltion, Republic and so forth, however i do really have intent of forming a Breakaway republic for Trafalgar and its surrounding area, the Scrap field as it stands, creating a large Smuggling ring to support the Breakaway Republic whilst adding the Harvesters and enticing them to join the fray to "Harvest" Bretonian Soldiers and so forth, if they catch on and take the opportunity they would be adding to our Breakaway military forces, their capital ships and so forth would be opportunistic to our Fighter and bomber wings, we would also continue our Heritage by scrapping and salvaging the battle after it ensued, it would indeed increase the number of salvagers after the Breakaway if it turns bloody. (This is a quick rundown and is not entirely true to what i believe will happen, but i feel i needed to post this quickly so i can catch everyone who is on, Aswell this is very short once again its not very descriptive.)
This is a mistake, in my opinion. The harvesters dont tend to operate in bretonia very often, and the Junker's Union has already got stuff going on with them =P Dont rely on another faction to get yours up and running.
I would also highly suggest -not- starting a war or even attempting to go militant against bretonia's armed forces. That is not how junkers operate - we deal in the shadows, not in open warfare.
Take queues from the junker's congress and junker's union (though the latter is less established). The congress takes a very political-based standpoint on issues within sirius, but they are not out to try and 'steal' space already owned by liberty, or to incite a war with the liberty government. The Junker's Union tries in every way to -not- tick off the rheinland military, because doing so would be extremely bad for business.
You have to think in terms of profit and greed. A junker, or body of junkers, does whatever they can to remain nuetral with -everyone-. You have to get your hands into everyone's pockets - including the government. You toss petty criminals to the government / police to keep them off your back, you smuggle against kusari to help the bretonian government, and you get paid for it; but at the same time, you're picking clean the pockets of criminals to fill your own coffers. You deal with the mollys to get their gold, you deal with the gaians to get their cash, you deal with the corsairs for their artifacts and with the outcasts for their cardamine - and then you turn around and sell all of htat to make yourself a profit.
The more enemies you have, the less money you can make, and the more careful you have to be. A junker should always strive to never create conflict, but to feed and thrive on existing conflict.
Quote:I'd really like to know our situation on this, I know it may be far fetched, but really, People pissed off so bad by a Capitalistic situation, while propoganda inflates the matter more may lead to a new Republic, (Example, See Soviet Union) (Example See French Republic) (Example See America within its birth, Actual name escapes me) (See China's History from Democrats to Communism)
This all relates to it, maybe not all of them but they get close in some senses, so please give me some feedback, Community!
In truth, capitalism is good for junkers - it allows you to profit off of the misfortune of others. If you can steal money from a dying man, you'll do it - honor and morals be damned. This goes for all of us, all over sirius - if you arent a junker we really dont care about anything other than the money you can give us.
It's nice that you want to get some activity going in bretonia while creating your own faction, but junkers - again - do not create conflict. You cannot start a war as a junker and hope to profit it unless you absolutely are sure that you can win that war, and that the spoils available from the downfall of your enemy will be worth the losses incurred in trying to defeat him.
//I dont really mean to start a war with bretonia, but attempt to create a Republic within Bretonia, much like the Soviet States did during the downfall, the scrap field there is basically useless to the government, bretonia doesnt mind us being there but having a Autonomous Republic there would be a nice additive to activity.
//The Breakaway republic will be nowhere near close to being our Beginnings, it will take a hell of a lot of RP to get this into gear...Harvesters will not be our "pets" anyways they seem intent on Harvesting what they can, where they can.
//Another point, i do not intend another to join the war and "expect" them to do it. Harvesters would basically fight the war for us, in a sense, if we play our cards right, we can get the Harvesters to go in guns a blazing, while we have a "launching malfunction" from our Base and then have the Harvesters fight it, come in and clean up afterwards, Thier expense and our Gain on both fronts. Or perhaps even play a background to the operation? More Junkerlike, yes? perhaps give the Harvesters equipment of what they need for creating a region for us to "own"? and credits for them to create their nanofields for their ship building.
//The Junker party in Trafalgar will be a Socialistic (? May change it appears its not well liked around 'ere)
//Alright it's Settled, the Trafalgar Junker Assembly. TJA-Name ...Look good? seems to be my top of the list, i'll submit my name change right now, and create myself a few parameters tomorrow for the faction. ship's weapons etc...
//Let's just ignore the bretonian comments for now:), i smell flaming!
Quote:Another point, i do not intend another to join the war and "expect" them to do it. Harvesters would basically fight the war for us, in a sense, if we play our cards right, we can get the Harvesters to go in guns a blazing, while we have a "launching malfunction" from our Base and then have the Harvesters fight it, come in and clean up afterwards, Thier expense and our Gain on both fronts. Or perhaps even play a background to the operation? More Junkerlike, yes? perhaps give the Harvesters equipment of what they need for creating a region for us to "own"? and credits for them to create their nanofields for their ship building.
Just be careful with this. The harvesters are machines, they are controlled by a machine intelligence that was not created by humans and is more powerful than any of us can know. They are not another group that can be negotiated with and they are very smart...
Right now, the junkers are the only faction in sirius that the harvesters will not immediately open fire on if they see fit. We maintain a -very- careful balance in our alliance with them - if they for any reason decide we're not worth their expenditure anymore, they will wipe us out along with everyone else.
So dont piss off the harvesters, and dont use them like an expendable fleet, or the rest of the junkers - including the union and congress, are liable to end up paying for your mistakes.
//Yes, but this is all hypothetical, like i said before this will have alot more of a RP for this to come along, i'm not going to go in game tomorrow and say "I'm taking this piece of Bretonia, give it up!" that is out of the question, believe me.
//And yes, i mean alot of RP if it even comes to my brainwaves.
//No intentions of using harvesters as an expandable fleet, if thats what you believe, However if they are running the Junker tag in battle, looks a bit odd, wouldnt it?. Honestly i'm starting to rethink the Harvester idea.
//Infact i may just Rethink this all, but continue with the faction for Trafalgar, I'll write up a history and everything else tomorrow, i'm headed to bed, Sayonara.
They run the junker tag and ID because it more closely suits them than anything else available in-game right now.
Anyways... I would strongly suggest that if you want to "take control" of any part of bretonia, you do it with the systems that are 'blank'.
Example: There's a system linked to dublin called the Chester system. There is nothing there, save for a single wreck, an 'unknown' planet, and a star (or maybe a few stars, not entirely sure). That system isnt being used for anything, and once your faction is established you could 'buy' the system from the admins and get one of the system developers to put a junker base or two into that system, and claim it as your own. It's still part of bretonia, but would be governed by your faction (the junkers).
The problem with trying to claim the space around trafalgar is the same problem junkers in new york and new berlin have with our stations. Rochester is in new york, but that space is still technically owned by the liberty government even if our station is there. Likewise with kreuzberg base in new berlin - we dont own the territory, only the station.
Now, Personally I say that 2000 meters around every junker station is part of that station's 'airspace' and belongs to it. We make rules in that small area, but many of the houses dont recognize those rules, and still claim to own that space - that your station is just a 'guest' in that area.
So really, you can never own any part of a major house system... you'll have to claim bordersystems or areas that are currently unowned.
//I'm not meaning to Claim New london in the name of the Junkers and start a rampage across Sirius like a futuristic hitler here, i'm meaning to put the Area under Complete junker control, within the field perhaps, but i guess its not worth the RP since it seems a widespread hate crime for junkers to have a changed way than other ones do, so nevermind and lets move on.
//I'll begin writing the Faction introduction now.
' Wrote:i'm meaning to put the Area under Complete junker control, within the field perhaps, but i guess its not worth the RP since it seems a widespread hate crime for junkers to have a changed way than other ones do, so nevermind and lets move on.
Complete Junker control is fine. It is what Tenacity is doing in 0-15. It will take some effort tho. Well maybe not, there are not many people in that area. Anyway I think its doable and if thats what you want I say go for it.
Is voting for a name still open? I vote for Salvage League or Scrappers Party. I would keep it generic because you never know where it might spread...