And half of the server population is not -all-.
If you think one cannot gain the needed immersion ingame, that might be right, yet not for everyone, and heavily depends on the style of RP one is focusing on, be that plotted-RP or creative-RP.
[04.05.2013 02:18:11] Divine: rp is never bound to game limitations, just to game lore
Nothing more to add.
RP with guns. PVP with words. Or do it the other way around. Or don't do it at all.
Stop speaking for everyone.
And you should stop speaking for me.
I specifically stated that the things I said there are my own opinion. Feel free to look back and re-read it again, if you wish so.
As for the limitations of lore, do we really need to start counting all the groups that have currently complained about their RP not being possible due to ID limitations?
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If you speak for yourself, stop using general terms to further your points.
Not able to do your RP because of ID-limitations, well... try to think for a way around it. If it's for the RP, those limitations won't hurt you bad.
But as you assumed all RP would be for PVP reasons, I can see where you're coming from pointing out ID-limitations.
Just because I assume all RP lead to PVP does not translate to me myself doing the same, unless I have specified this somewhere earlier.
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... oh for the love of... A -Zoner- IFF'd Outcast? Seriously, do we REALLY need to rephack everything to +0.7 max to stop this kind of idiocy?
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(05-13-2013, 03:55 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: ... oh for the love of... A -Zoner- IFF'd Outcast? Seriously, do we REALLY need to rephack everything to +0.7 max to stop this kind of idiocy?
(05-12-2013, 01:39 PM)SummerMcLovin Wrote: Having the option to nerf these problem ones to 10% or whatever, while those with permission from the Zoners can keep it at 75%, would be preferable. Things like unlawful Freelancers using Bottlenoses who are found and reported to BHG would also be nerfed.
It shouldn't be official faction controlled, that was the main problem back in .85, official faction leaders had terrible bias when it came to granting or not granting faction tech, this is essentially the same thing as we had .85.
Do not want.
(05-12-2013, 01:45 PM)McTemka Wrote: Perhaps easier would be to make those ships just simply SRPed? And if they're not, they all getting nerf to 0%? How do you like this idea?
Bad idea.
The point of this GAME is to have FUN, which involves people being able to fly ships they want (to an extent) and try some new things.
(05-12-2013, 02:59 PM)Just.Dave Wrote: Well Think that people use ship's like that can be use but if the faction find out and has a problem with it and the ship is destroy and posted then that ship should be delete as is think the did be (black scorpion style) sins inRp that ship can not be replace to that person or repair.
Even worse idea, terrible idea.
Here's a scenario for you.
*Guy-1 buys a Rheinland Gunboat and slaps a CAU8 on it*
*Guy-2, who is the leader of the [RM] sees Guy-1 bought this RM Gunboat with a CAU8*
*Guy-2 doesn't like Guy-1, OORPly*
*Guy-2/RM Leader uses this proposed faction right to delete Guy-1's ship because he doesn't like him*
*Guy-1 loses almost 1 billion credits because of this*
So nope, not a good idea at all.
The reason why official faction's right of granting access to their ships was removed in 4.86 was because of very things like this. We don't want that back.
My proposal for solving this "problem": If it's real bad, just let the admins deal with it in a Black.Scorpion-isk manner. If it's minor but problematic, just let the person get FR5'd to death.
(05-13-2013, 03:55 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: ... oh for the love of... A -Zoner- IFF'd Outcast? Seriously, do we REALLY need to rephack everything to +0.7 max to stop this kind of idiocy?
Iff is other matter. The point is outcasts on zoner ships, hunters on LN ships, LN and RM on BHG ships, freelancers on BHG ships and so on..
And Sterlin, the point of game IS to have fun, but you know, every one have their own understanding of it. And I get a lot of qq for breacking someone's fun, just because my understanding doesn't fit anyone's view, as it seems. So should I change myself, or keep getting fun and don't care about anyone else?
there is the fun you create and let others participate at
and there is the fun you have at the expense of others
a specific kind of parasitic players likes to have fun "no matter what" - even if it harms other players who do not have fun due to that. in real life - one may call those ppl bullies.
however - it is a bit of a double standard.
a longer time ago - there had been a discussion if it was OK if MND should have rheinland IDs - but actual other factions IFFs to "cloak" from long range detection in order to execute their job as a covert organization.
quite a significant part of the community was supporting that.
at the same time - there had been a similar discussion of Wild ships using other factions IFFs, too - for the same purpose. - again - a significant part of the community ( or probably the same part as its always kind of the same ppl being vocal ) was in support.
one might argue that a pirate should have the same ambitions.... to cloak their Intentions from long range scanners - hence appear as a "harmless target" - and only rise the jolly roger at point blank range - aka scanner range. especially a pirate in a slow capital ship might be interested in maximizing his/her survivability.
if it starts to harm others though - it should not be done. - and the sad conclusion is that we keep nerfing the generic stuff - at the cost of players who actually play the generic stuff. - so that the generic stuff becomes so unattractive that no one in their right mind would use it.
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