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Offline AdamantineFist
12-02-2008, 05:18 PM,
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The new version looks nice. Vaguely Kisarian in the design ethos, though. I think it's those side embelishments that do it for me. It reminds me of the Kusari Cruiser....


Apart from that, though, it's a nice design. Both of them are nice designs, really. Although I personally would rather it did not have two forward guns. One is good enough, in my opinion, and only four GB turrets is a bit too low.

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Offline Jinx
12-02-2008, 06:02 PM,
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the ornaments are also ( in a different form ) seen on the liberty cruiser. - but yes, they turned out to be a bit kusarian ( doesn t look like that ingame though )

about the weaponry - thats about a question of its purpose.

right now - the order has a most complete line of fighters ( HF, VHF, bomber )
it has a destroyer ( recon destroyer ) and a cruiser with one million turrets ( carrier ) - as well as a battleship ( osiris )

its most common enemies are the nomads - which deploy LFs, VHFs, bombers, gunboats and battleships.

the order can deal with the fighters with their own fighters - but needs something to deal with the nomad gunboats ... without deploying the most precious destroyer which is supposed to be rather unique in RP. or a fully fletched carrier.

so a gunboat that is capable of killing a capital ship is what they need very much - hence 2 F-guns. ( only if it can be balanced of course )

they don t really need a gunboat that hunts fighters, cause they have fighters to do that - and they can deploy fighters, cause they have bases nearby. ( others may use gunboats there, but mostly cause they have no base there and so need to travel in larger ships )

but i can also make it a default 6 turrets gunboat. - no prob with that.

the edgeworld gunboats would look like that then:
- corsair 8 turrets
- outcast 8 turrets
- BHG 6 turrets
- zoner 4 turrets
- order 6 turrets

nomad GB not listed, cause they got no comparable stats.

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Offline Eppy
12-02-2008, 06:10 PM,
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Lookin' good, Jinx...I can't really criticize much, it's a perfect ship. I could stand to see a little bit more going on with the bow, but it's mod-ready right now. Can't wait to blow them up:)

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Offline Dennis Jameson
12-02-2008, 06:15 PM,
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I like your way of thinking when it comes to balancing these ships gun-wise, and the ship looks rather nice as well, so nice work all around, hope it'll make it into 4.85.

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Offline Tenacity
12-02-2008, 06:21 PM,
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Quote:cruiser with one million turrets ( carrier )

Goody goody =P

All my cash is rotting waiting for 4.85 to release, along with all the RP I've written for that carrier...

Quote:the order can deal with the fighters with their own fighters - but needs something to deal with the nomad gunboats ... without deploying the most precious destroyer which is supposed to be rather unique in RP. or a fully fletched carrier.

True, the carrier can handle it because, in-rp, it launches fighters to deal with enemy fighters. It probably would have enough firepower to handle an enemy capship, even a nomad - but the carriers are, IMO, supposed to be extremely rare ships, with only a small few made. I dont currently know any other order player (other than myself) who's planning on getting one, except maybe swissscorch.

Dunno about the recon destroyers though, they would be semi-rare, but i think the 'excuse' here is that they're more suited to surveillance and information gathering than combat.

Quote:and they can deploy fighters, cause they have bases nearby.

Or carriers =)


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Offline Jinx
12-02-2008, 06:34 PM,
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the ship s no real beauty and won t win an award for the most innovative ship. - but i think its quite solid ... and frankly ... before you get no gunboat at all in 4.85... i guess most of the order would even fly untextured cubes. ( or the corsair GB )

a balancing problem is its shape though. - gotto see how it turns out to be when testing ( and when the open beta starts ... ) - cause while in RP there might be quite many nomad gunboats out there ... in reality - there are still a lot more order players around than nomad players ( due to the fact that the order has non-factionized players )

but anyway - i think the order NEEDs a gunboat that is somewhat able to fight back... cause when the BHG is restricted to that space, the order will need something to fight - other than a fleet of capital warships. ( err.. i mean large capital warships of course )

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Offline stewcool
12-02-2008, 09:06 PM,
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Looks like it has a little Kusari touch to it too....Did we steal this one from Liberty as well ^.^ I like it.

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Offline frozen
12-02-2008, 09:12 PM,
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i liked the concept alot, and the variation, but this one, cant really say "im feeling it", cuz i really aint 'feeling it'. dunno, no offence or owt, but this design isnt what id expect for an order gb :/

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Offline Turkish
12-02-2008, 09:27 PM,
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A very nice model Jinx, but like Frozen I'm not feeling it. It may be the way you've mapped the texture,but I'm not feeling anything compelling about this model.

And I'm personally having a hard time seeing it integrated into the current line of Order capitals.

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Offline Jinx
12-02-2008, 09:29 PM,
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hm - might not be a good idea to get it in then. - gotto see if i can come up with something else until our deadline passes. gonne tell mjolnir to withdraw it from the close beta update again.

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