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Baltar · (This post was last modified: 07-23-2009, 12:07 AM by Baltar.)

@ Hack: Good ... I got your attention and you're researching new ideas ... awesome. But let me say this ... next time you see a Liberty Rogue flying about Sigma 13 or wherever ... don't be so quick to call him OORP for being out of his ZOI. Don't know how many times I've gotten that one. And I've been telling everyone that unlawful ID's are allowed to trade as well. And yes ... if you are not a pure trading faction you should not be flying tankers with 5000 unit cargo holds ... I've seen a few LPI IFF's flying them. Only complaint I've really got is when people are hypocritical ... really don't like seeing Liberty navy, police or security forces flying outside Liberty space and then turning around to tell me I'm out of my ZOI. One more thing ... I fly a Liberty Rogue GB ... that does NOT automatically make me a Liberty Rogue. So quit calling me a Rogue when you see me with my Pirate ID. And yes ... I do trade with my Pirate ID. BUT ... my trading isn't going for the high paying cargo. I don't move cardamine or artifacts between unlawful bases. I move food, water and medicine from Junker bases to other unlawful bases (feeding and taking care of the poor). I'm more of a Robin Hood type ... think chaotic good. ;)

EDIT: Hack ... I'm not saying you in particular call me OORP or whatever ... just saying that lawfuls in general tend to claim we unlawfuls are OORP more often than not. And they seem to be blind to the fact that they are guilty of what they are blaming us for. I'd like to see people spend more time role playing than going OOC in system chat to tell me THEY think I'm OORP with my character.

hack · 07-23-2009, 03:37 AM,

' Wrote:@ Hack: Good ... I got your attention and you're researching new ideas ... awesome. But let me say this ... next time you see a Liberty Rogue flying about Sigma 13 or wherever ... don't be so quick to call him OORP for being out of his ZOI. Don't know how many times I've gotten that one. And I've been telling everyone that unlawful ID's are allowed to trade as well. And yes ... if you are not a pure trading faction you should not be flying tankers with 5000 unit cargo holds ... I've seen a few LPI IFF's flying them. Only complaint I've really got is when people are hypocritical ... really don't like seeing Liberty navy, police or security forces flying outside Liberty space and then turning around to tell me I'm out of my ZOI. One more thing ... I fly a Liberty Rogue GB ... that does NOT automatically make me a Liberty Rogue. So quit calling me a Rogue when you see me with my Pirate ID. And yes ... I do trade with my Pirate ID. BUT ... my trading isn't going for the high paying cargo. I don't move cardamine or artifacts between unlawful bases. I move food, water and medicine from Junker bases to other unlawful bases (feeding and taking care of the poor). I'm more of a Robin Hood type ... think chaotic good. ;)

EDIT: Hack ... I'm not saying you in particular call me OORP or whatever ... just saying that lawfuls in general tend to claim we unlawfuls are OORP more often than not. And they seem to be blind to the fact that they are guilty of what they are blaming us for. I'd like to see people spend more time role playing than going OOC in system chat to tell me THEY think I'm OORP with my character.

Yeah, I notice alot of traders are flying around with a police IFF that doesn't match their ID, that irritates me. NON LPI Traders should not be flying Police IFF..... I had a percheron with a os&c id pass me tonight, no prob, but with a police IFF.... I said something to him, but got ignored.

I don't know how to get these guys to change their IFF's, you would think it is OORP.

As for the FACTIONALIZD LPI, we smack em around if they leave the established ZOI. Heck, check the Diplo thred, I even chewed the Indie LPI a new one....

And no, the LPI can't fly anything bigger than 3000K, and thats the way were gonna stay. We had a luxury liner when 4.86 came around, and in accordance to our ID, we sold it.

Anyways, to show how we are trying to do it right, check out our wiki page, or the training thread..... you might be surprised...

Formerly known as LPI Police Chief Hull O'Brien.
Creator of Sgt. V. Price, 207th Precinct out of Chula Vista Station

Canadianguy · 07-23-2009, 03:38 AM,

Stop arguing its going to result in a Flamewar

And discussion is going of topic.

So, let say, like I said before, no one should use JH as shortcuts instead of using the JG network.

JH should be used for two reasons
When its the only way to enter a certain system
or
For unlawfuls.

Corporate using JH doesn't sounds right. Ya know, Ageira say its dangerous and even if they are not, do you think large corporations are going to take the risk??

Benjamin · 07-23-2009, 07:22 AM,

Yes.

Join Cryer Pharmaceuticals

Drake · 07-23-2009, 06:46 PM,

' Wrote:Yes.

Definitely. It's a profit-vs-risk ratio, and the potential profit often outweighs the potential risk. That's how giant amoral corporations think.

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