Oh yeah, but actually you are declared a war on us. It says.
We already showed a good example how official faction can tolerate new groups and let them grow without any intervention. But, to continue this tradition, in light of past ZA steps and total ignorance we should remove them from 74.
Yes. ZA had enough reasons to shoot you down, given that you speak about neutrality but at the same time you have allowed tin cans access to livadia right I front of the battle, over and over again. You can't do that, even a six year old boy knows that when you support a party, directly ( which is foolish because zoners work in the shades ) you are automatically tagged hostile to the defending foe.
Would they allow your attackers to use their stations for supplies and logistics and then claim neutrality ? Yes, but not PUBLICLY. And its only yes because you are too shallow to follow the golden rule, zoners protect zoners. Osi made sure that free port 15 remains neutral and carefully avoided giving orders to za and others. But not you, instead your vessels made every possible statement in front of everyone to force the za to act against you. This war is not legit, but into rule-wise attacking you is legit and makes perfect sense in rp
Its a debate not a winning contest, I'm happy with the truth even if others don't get that. But taking the hypocritical card of blaiming just the za is just too bogus and insulting.
I've read whole thread.
I can now say that you like to make difficulties, and mess with them, trying to solve. Not simply solve (which is too easy?) but heavily mess in.
I have a feeling the Roleplay itself is far not the main factor to achieve joy here.
(07-15-2013, 10:56 AM)Yamamoto Wrote: And here we have another shameless gravedig. Say, Tel Aviv, is it fun for you to make cold water boiling over and over again?
This isn't much of a gravedig, since this is only from three weeks ago. However, it IS an attempt to start the pot boiling again with all the ZA attitude.
Basically, what I'm getting out of this is they're right because they're new to the server, they had no part in developing any of the background lore, and they just want to play the way they want to play - regardless of how things happened before them, and of course, they're entitled to do that because they are.
Sound about right?
In fictional terms, we're now in the last book of the series, and suddenly Harry Potter decides that he's going to kill Ron (which isn't a bad thing, really), rape Hermione, and join forces with Voldemort to rule all of the muggles.
In other words, he's going to go completely against everything that you've set him up as in the first six books.
Why? Because you can't be bothered to actual role-play Zoners like they are. They prefer to solve things diplomatically, not with violence. They're practically the ultimate pacifists - albeit ones that WILL defend themselves. But rather than get into a confrontation (with the houses), they just moved out. And they've found over the years that diplomacy IS the best solution as far as they're concerned. It's much better to play the Order off against the BHG, or the Corsairs against the Outcasts, than it is to piss all of them off against you.
Because of one minor detail. You're outnumbered, and outgunned. And fail attempts at metagaming are just that - FAIL.
I figure this one is going to get locked pretty darned quickly.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
From what I can gather, corsairs were not in this mess and I don't think they will anytime.
Last I checked the whining at the forums started by them, dozens of threads secretly aiming the situation.
As I previously said all the shout upper-case comments were focused on why the za aren't zoners , what's wrong with them and ABCD, let them play as they want, if one breaks the rules, you file him, there's no need for a psycho drama debate on how zoners should behave. I'm pretty sure they are aware of that, and what they decide to do is under their care and its none of business to anyone to judge them.
And when I say all of this, I mean inrl.
(07-17-2013, 08:49 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: let them play as they want
That's not entirely how things work here. For example things can get very wrong pretty fast if one defies common sense and denies playing out their own weaknesses. Guess how worse consequences would one have to face if in addition to that decides to draw strength from ooRP means.