EDIT: I wasn't spamming, but your statement about that we can't defeat our enemies is definitely wrong. Of course you want to have fun with RP'ing, but if you are keeper it doesn't mean that we must do romantic speech with candlelight. Our goal is to destroy your-kind.
EDIT 2: If you would be more intelligent than me (what you are actually want to show), you wouldn't reply to this.
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So... then tell me how you want to defeat that enemy. Nomads will rise again after their form was destroyed. You cant really harm Dur-Shurrikun, it -has- a shield, you know?
So maybe looking for some other, more subversive ways? But I start to believe that's way to much asked from people that just can say their goal is to destroy our kind. Never looked over the edge of the plate? Even tried?
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Oh well, I will. And no, I dont want to show that. Just shows me right now how much you personally understand what this is about. But go for it, your call after all.
/'Cuse for the double-post again. Somehow it dont want to merge my replies anymore.
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So... then tell me how you want to defeat that enemy. Nomads will rise again after their form was destroyed. You cant really harm Dur-Shurrikun, it -has- a shield, you know?
So maybe looking for some other, more subversive ways? But I start to believe that's way to much asked from people that just can say their goal is to destroy our kind. Never looked over the edge of the plate? Even tried?
to 2:
Oh well, I will. And no, I dont want to show that. Just shows me right now how much you personally understand what this is about. But go for it, your call after all.
/'Cuse for the double-post again. Somehow I dont want to merge my replies anymore.
1: It has, but no one shield can stand forever. You think we aren't progressing in tech?
2: I've said all I want to say.
EDIT to 1: //Except admin shield
EDIT: We do NOT act like a bunch of PvP-oriented morons, so please don't do such statements ever again if you don't know our RP. We are at war, but this isn't a war. It's a war for mankind, we must act fast.
Secondly, we are planning RP-events with Keepers so you just need to wait until some moment.
Thirdly, Keepers aren't the ones who we are at war with.
i think the only technological progress the order has made lately is stealing nomad weapons, but i might be misinformed, so no harsh feelings.
to the assault on dur-shurrikun. i think the order would utterly annihilate themselves if they tried something like that. the minefield around it is half-system-wide and nomads would just keep spawning back in the mindshare and rushing to the battle after being 'destroyed'. concerning the power of the shield, nomads are quite better off with technology than humans, so you cant know how much pounding would it take before eventually failing.
and im not talking about what would the elder nomads do with the order commanders' heads if they wanted to.
i dont even think the entire gallic fleet could survive that one.
' Wrote:Secondly, we are planning RP-events with Keepers so you just need to wait until some moment.
*coughs* I started idea and guess what i am Keeper:D
Anyway i hope we will get some better RP before engagement, instead of Engage! Nomads must die! Sorry but it happened to many times. Most of time i cant even write single line of text to respond.
Well i could try setmsg , *goes back in game to set them up*
Can you even hear the crap you are talking?
I mean, you say I dont know Order RP, yea, sure. You have at least bothered to read our lore?
I had an Order char long enough, and gave it up because I wasnt satisfied with the given RP around at all.
And all what I can see by the Order against Nomads is shoot, shoot and shoot.
Also, if you keep going on with your 'war for mankind' that way, I will keep calling you a bunch of pvp-orientated morons, as you nicely said it.
You claim you are not, still I see everytime otherwise from your people. So why shouldnt you be just that?
Show me different, maybe I will reconsider then my opinion.
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You? What do you have to care about that argument here?
Maybe you rushed with your shiny big ship into an event? Or you flew to the Nomad group around after someone yelled again "Nomads in system, enagaginbug!" in system chat?
I hardly doubt the Nomad fleet just came to destroy you. So I wonder why your shiny big ship got destroyed. Looks like someone hasnt moved his back fast enough out of sight and stayed right in the heat.
I believed trial-by-forum was forbidden here ? Whatever...
What is the problem ? Keepers are crying because we... do our job ? Funny...
I will try to answer to few points some people stated.
For example, the Tohoku fight. We were on our way to Newcastle, to do a Role Play mission, visiting the Aliens ruins in this system. By pure luck, one Keeper was in Tohoku (we must go via Tohoku to join Bretonia). One another Keeper was detected by one of us in Omicron-92. So we waited him at the hole then we engaged. Why ? Because we are the Order and you are Nomads. You know, epic total war between us...? We exist only because of you. Our primary objective is to destroy you, not to take a cup of tea with you guys. Whatever. So our numbers at the moment wasn't done to fight you, it's was pure luck, as I say. You are free to not believe me, I don't care.
Second point, why we bring more ships than yours when we know we will fight you ? Because the Nomads ships are more powerful than ours, and the Nomad LF is overpowered, dixit many Keepers members (Boss, Tenacity, Sead... and others). Plus, the Keepers guys are (nearly) all expert in fight.
You know, before, we tried to do some totally "fair fights", like 2 vs 2, 4 vs 4, etc... We lose everytime, and easily, because you have better ships and better skills. This is why, we try to get at last 2 vs 1 balance each time we fight you. Strangely, it's more equilibrated... But think what you want and keep whinning if you want.
Third point, about our presence everywhere in Sirius... I hope you are aware Order have a Sirius wide ZOI, because our job is to protect mankind from you. We can be in Omicrons, Liberty, Bretonia, Taus, whatever... Since there many Aliens ruins everywhere in Sirius, we have the role play reason to be there. Another thing, I will say in 75% of the case, it's a non-Order people that warn us you are in a system. When you are in NY, very often one Navy or trader PM one of us and ask for help.
Since our RP is to defend Sirius and destroy you, what we must do in this case ? "No sorry guys, we have better thing to do, good luck" ? Come on. So we lauch some forces to intercept you and to fight you, yes.
I repeat, our RP is to fight you, not to talk to you, because we know we can't negociate anything. Your RP is to destroy humans or take control of us. There is no "gray zone", it's black or white. Replay the SP if you have some doubt.
Final thing, NOBODY in the Keepers came talk to me on Skype or in PM via forums when I succeded Ophidian. None. So stop crying here and talking about "no communication".
I hope I will not see another rant/whinning thread like this here, because, honestly, it sucks.
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What is the problem ? Keepers are crying because we... do our job ? Funny...
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Second point, why we bring more ships than yours when we know we will fight you ? Because the Nomads ships are more powerful than ours, and the Nomad LF is overpowered, dixit many Keepers members (Boss, Tenacity, Sead... and others). Plus, the Keepers guys are (nearly) all expert in fight.
You know, before, we tried to do some totally "fair fights", like 2 vs 2, 4 vs 4, etc... We lose everytime, and easily, because you have better ships and better skills. This is why, we try to get at last 2 vs 1 balance each time we fight you. Strangely, it's more equilibrated... But think what you want and keep whinning if you want.
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I repeat, our RP is to fight you, not to talk to you, because we know we can't negociate anything. Your RP is to destroy humans or take control of us. There is no "gray zone", it's black or white. Replay the SP if you have some doubt.
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I hope I will not see another rant/whinning thread like this here, because, honestly, it sucks.
Uh, alright, lets see where to start...
You say you cant defeat us in fair fights, so you say you need to bring twice the numbers as we have to consider even starting a fight? Sounds logical. Sounds fun. Sounds fair. Sure.
You say our players are more skilled in their ships than yours? Training, anyone? Maybe.
You seem to be missing the point. Its not about your entire RP, its about how you play it out. We are not your personal blue message you definitly need to hunt. This attitude is worse to the maximum.
As stated before, I cant make a move without your 'fine' fleet trying to overwhelm me.
So just because it was 'black and white' in SP, you are out to actually ruin my fun? Great.
If all your RP is about to kill, you fail epically.
Is that all you can think of for your faction, shoot and shoot more? Then you are the worst faction leader I ever heard of.
Well Kelt, you have some point in that, but at least, if Keepers want, and start RPing, Order and related, don't need to attack them right away.
I mean, did you ever seen Keeper atacking anyone with 1 line of text?
Agmen of Eladesor Wrote:But you either follow our rules here and work with us - or STFU and GTFO.
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