Ehmn.. interesting.
Yesterday you told us it was R was Raiders, today Renegades.. I'll just wait until you decide with that.
Anyway I have seen hassle on Skype yesterday so I logged in and met with you guys in space, I got there while other [LN] pilot was talking with you, I had no idea about any of previous assaults so I stood there and tried to figure out what was happening.
And in the end it simply went along the lines of "If you think we are rogue we could then act like that." and shooting started.
Little bit out of the subject but.. 2/5 factions I am in had rebellions, next on list Keepers, GRN and RoS, basicly GRN has council so it's covered, RoS is one that rebelled if you put it that way and yeah I am now only waiting for morphs to start shooting keepers. Meh.. is it me?:unsure:
Edit: So.. no more LNR|, this was solved quickly I guess.
' Wrote:First of all,
I want to apologise to any Navy that died in conflicts with the LNR|. Second, the LNR| will exist no more. Sorry for the trouble caused.
My 2 cents: 6.10 if they start shooting their own ID or allies. Rogue or not, you -MUST- remain within the set of constraints set in your ID.
My guess is these guys didn't have the patience to post SRPs for the actions they intended to take, and use the "we go rogue" excuse to act against their own ID while keeping their ships. Recommend the admins step in on this and set a firm precedent that this simply is not to be.
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From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.
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As a faction leader that has dealt with this more than once, I'll chime in here.
Until or unless Joe as the Faction Leader of the [LN] gives you official orders under the Rights of Official Factions that you then disobey - you aren't rebels, and aren't allowed to shoot ships of your own ID. Even then, what would have to happen then is that he would have to file an FR5 against your group, which then requires Admin intervention so that your personal reps are modified and changed. One of those changes is that you are no longer allowed to dock on bases that were previously friendly to you - which makes it VERY difficult to repair your ship, or get spare parts.
And of course, there would also have to be something on the forum to back up your role play and also his actions.
Been there, done that - twice.
It causes mass acrimony between players and can ruin role-play - although there does get to be the option for lots of PvP at times. And hell, if you're flying an LN ship and you want PvP, head to Rhienland...
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
' Wrote:My 2 cents: 6.10 if they start shooting their own ID or allies. Rogue or not, you -MUST- remain within the set of constraints set in your ID.
My guess is these guys didn't have the patience to post SRPs for the actions they intended to take, and use the "we go rogue" excuse to act against their own ID while keeping their ships. Recommend the admins step in on this and set a firm precedent that this simply is not to be.
SRP's are closed, and there is prior precedent for the characters involved having bad blood with the rest of the navy.
But like charos said, they're abandoning the idea.
gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|