the order

[Shagohad]

The Order also believes that the governments of the houses are inept and should be united under one xenophobic government(The Order) in order to exterminate the Nomads. They don't care what the governments are or what they do, they just care that they fight amongst one another and don't concentrate on the Nomad threat.

We need more fascist Order.

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[Akura]

And hopefully if the Admins ever get around to the Aoi Iseijin-stuff, the Order will have a more overt force to fight in Kusari.

[Treewyrm]

I was taking the piss, I do know the origin of the fall of Minor. You told me. In great detail.

Then stop doing that, because it seems that pissing is all you do nowadays. It is making things worse and harder to implement, especially when people take your word for granted, and then I have to continuously explain that what you've said is wrong. "But Dave said..." and here we go again, just because Dave was taking a piss. So how about you just take a walk off, right? Cause you ain't being helpful at all, seems rather the opposite.

[Jeremy Hunter]

*sighs*

Dave.

Why do you honestly care?

Its some roleplsy, and tbh, whst roleplsy besides the Aoi getting Jeremy has been done bewteen the Order and Noms thst didnt use gunfire?

Let us roleplay.

@Shago

We dont want to unite everyone. We wants Noms gonr, but we wont take over. Its not our plan nor ideals.

We need more Nomad bias.

>_>

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[Treewyrm]

"We wants Noms gonr" isn't exactly what I think it is.

Personally I think there are other motives and reasons, whether they are implied or not so. The major one is obtaining alien technology. Nomads have a number of their own plus what they have inherited from Daam K'Vosh, quite possibly a lot of it was too either created or at very least maintained by Nomads, so they have a pretty good knowledge, how it works, how it is made. All that can give a significant advantage to whichever group that would control it, hence the involvement of BHG Core in the conflict. Does the Order intend to prevent other forces from gaining dangerous alien technology? Perhaps, some might be, others may as well succumb and use it themselves. There are many details like that, shades of grey where it's unclear what motives are there, what are the reasons behind. And none of them can be characterized as "good" or "bad". Now some players might prefer clear separation, clear roles as in defining strict heroes versus villains type, however I lean towards shades of gray - i.e. nobody is a hero or villain, rather it's all about conflicts of interests, whether they are hidden away by propaganda or exposed, implied in context or kept away from outsiders. The Order are renegades - they are between forces each with it's own interests, interests that the Order fights against, whether they know so or not. Behind are houses and they too have their own agendas, their own ambitions, prejudices and old wounds that wouldn't heal. Highly unlikely they would pass the opportunity to obtain alien technology and use it to their own ends, whether the reasoning would be to conquer or to protect themselves from their neighbors. It is the influence and the opportunities that come with advantages of technology that is perhaps much more dangerous than the Nomads. These fears have their manifestation and proof in form of power hungry and greedy BHG Core, who want all that for themselves, and yet they too acting out of fear that someone else would get it first. And finally there are the Nomads who have their own agendas although given the nature those are much misunderstood. To simplify and paint all that as a comicbook-like "heroes vs villains" conflict is to deprive your own characters of many great roleplay opportunities, it is to force adherence to strict cliche roles and all-too-predictable lines. It might be the best thing you can do but perhaps few others who still have a little creativity spark might try it at a different angle that allows greater variety and complexity. Disclaimer: it's just my view, nothing else, what they do and how do they see themselves as is their business anyway. Unlike some others who demand this or that of factions they ain't part of.

[Omicron]

So the Order want to save one teenage slave out of millions

Wolfy's own initiative, why Order caps or more players are involved is unknown to me. It cant make any harm so I do not have intentions in stopping him. Wolf's Ghost would do that even without my aproval or even if I completely ordered him to stop.

No Jeremy, the Order aren't heroes or Sirius police, there is a lot of slavery and innocent blood shed and the Order do nothing to stop it, they're merely Xenophobic Militants. The Order have been known to slaughter innocents in their time too, I'll remind you.

I can see Core as marines from 40k (for the guildmaster, no matter what the cost), and Order as human federation from Starship Troopers (purge, purge, purge).

The Order also believes that the governments of the houses are inept and should be united under one xenophobic government(The Order)
...
We need more fascist Order.

We have more or less support of both lawful and unlawful side of Rheinland against Das Wilde, so me thinks in some way it is partialy fulfilled.

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[Akura]

I can see Core as marines from 40k (for the guildmaster, no matter what the cost), and Order as human federation from Starship Troopers (purge, purge, purge).

Agreed, I see them that way too xD

[Switchback]

Activity of official faction

Our forums

Tracking activity of independents is impossible but it is rarity to see empty Omicron Minor.

Yea, and official order| wants to courtmarshal the only Decent order indies. I suggest you dont join official. Theymad.

Join 63rd )))

http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=94212

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Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts... perhaps the fear of a loss of power.

[Wolfs Ghost]

Although apparently the Order spend more time saving single teenagers forced to work on Outcast plantations, ignoring the other millions of other underaged slaves that die on Malta every year.

Actually, Akura, this is more or less just Terrance's personal goal to help a fellow Bretonian, it isn't about the other millions of slaves who die on Malta every year, (Though, now that you bring that up...) The only reason he requested aid from the Order was because he couldn't do it himself as it would be largely suicidal. It was the Order High Command's choice whether they wanted to get involved with this side mission or not, also it's more or less a PR move on Terrance's part, rather than the Order's.

As Omicron already apparently said, and yeah, I would've done it anyways. xD

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[Akura]

Actually, Akura, this is more or less just Terrance's personal goal to help a fellow Bretonian, it isn't about the other millions of slaves who die on Malta every year, (Though, now that you bring that up...) The only reason he requested aid from the Order was because he couldn't do it himself as it would be largely suicidal. It was the Order High Command's choice whether they wanted to get involved with this side mission or not, also it's more or less a PR move on Terrance's part, rather than the Order's.

As Omicron already apparently said, and yeah, I would've done it anyways. xD

Alright, that's better explained. Cheers.

Still seems like a drop of piss in an ocean of pissy water to me.