' Wrote:Can't argue with that but I would say that the Ronin have done far, far worse.
Bretonia could easily deal with the CR, it was involved in total war with Kusari.
The entire Tau war was caused by the leader of the Ronin.
How can you say that the CR are trusted less than the people responsible for the ravaging of your military and slaughter of thousands of Bretonians?
No, i think what Dab is saying is that CR is even less trustworthy than the Reavers.
That got the point through, i'm sure.
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' Wrote:Can't argue with that but I would say that the Ronin have done far, far worse.
Bretonia could easily deal with the CR, it was involved in total war with Kusari.
The entire Tau war was caused by the leader of the Ronin.
How can you say that the CR are trusted less than the people responsible for the ravaging of your military and slaughter of thousands of Bretonians?
We trust the Emperor in the mentality of we know he'll work with us until we win then try to betray us. He's predictable and we can trust him to keep his word up until the point where it is clear that Gallia will lose, then he'll try to turn on us. Knowing this, we can fully trust him up until that point than take him out before he is able to reconnect with loyal subjects inside Kusari.
CR is a different matter entirely. Your allegiances float and shift like a leaf in the wind. You might help us one day and then try to kill us the next without any reasonable cause or justification. This is purely based on your past actions.
Beyond that, if you wish to discuss it further, please make another thread, this is not the appropriate location for it.
' Wrote:Is it possible for The Council to get on the list of participating factions against royal forces, maybe even in small numbers only?
Yes, it completely slipped my mind. Council would be there on the BAF side sometimes. My mistake.
As for dates, I'd highly suggest Saturdays. ~7 PM GMT would probably be ideal.
' Wrote:We trust the Emperor in the mentality of we know he'll work with us until we win then try to betray us. He's predictable and we can trust him to keep his word up until the point where it is clear that Gallia will lose, then he'll try to turn on us. Knowing this, we can fully trust him up until that point than take him out before he is able to reconnect with loyal subjects inside Kusari.
CR is a different matter entirely. Your allegiances float and shift like a leaf in the wind. You might help us one day and then try to kill us the next without any reasonable cause or justification. This is purely based on your past actions.
Beyond that, if you wish to discuss it further, please make another thread, this is not the appropriate location for it.
If you remember, the CR has not taken actions without reason in the past. There was always a good/logical reason, much like the same logic that you anticipate the Emperor will employ.
The CR has yet to take advantage of any friendship when instigating a war.
IE, it doesn't come into your house and shoot it up while inside. It has always left the house before shooting at it.
That would constitute keeping to their word, even if it is in a slightly odd way.
You can fully trust the CR/Ronin up till the point where it is no longer advantagous for them to support Bretonia.
No need for another thread, I'll leave it at that.
Simply saying that the same logic of being able to trust the Ronin to a point is also applicable to the CR and Bretonia.
' Wrote:If you remember, the CR has not taken actions without reason in the past. There was always a good/logical reason, much like the same logic that you anticipate the Emperor will employ.
The CR has yet to take advantage of any friendship when instigating a war.
IE, it doesn't come into your house and shoot it up while inside. It has always left the house before shooting at it.
That would constitute keeping to their word, even if it is in a slightly odd way.
You can fully trust the CR/Ronin up till the point where it is no longer advantagous for them to support Bretonia.
No need for another thread, I'll leave it at that.
Simply saying that the same logic of being able to trust the Ronin to a point is also applicable to the CR and Bretonia.
Yea, that's the silliest thing I have heard in a long time. We all know that the CRs dipomacy runs on who Panzer thinks it would be fun to shoot at the moment.
Might consider the AFA. sure they won't itch a finger to help the Bretonians out, but as long as the Exiles are around there's a reason for them to fight.
And seriously, it takes a lot to get Zelot and Dab to agree on something. I never expected to see that happening anywhere, maybe apart from the fundamental laws of physics.
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Problem with AFA is: They are at Kusari, this event will be on Bretonia borders, and Taus are under total GRN control, they might want to help, doesn't mean they can.
Also they've got enough problems on their own right now.