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Let's talk on the Nephthys
Offline FallenKnight
02-10-2012, 01:38 AM,
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' Wrote:Instead of making OP ship to counter the nomad ship- nerf the nomad ship- Logic?
If you dont know I will tell you that every nomad ship and all nomad capital ship guns have been nerfed badly. Labraid, the gunboat and the cruiser are not what they were. The sascya has been updated with little more agility but its turn rate and hitbox is still ...big. The bomber is fine. Marduk is the only epic ship right now.

Nomad ships ARE balanced to Sirius human tech. Something that is against their lore of being...stronger. You can say they have to stay that way? Yea maybe, but you know that usually 2-3 nomad players are going together to travel and search for Rp, while any other faction can send a lot more to counter them.
' Wrote:Also... "Its K'hara! Gank Gank Gank Gank Engagebu Normade!" Anyone?
That happens 70% of the time:)

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Offline dodike
02-10-2012, 01:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-10-2012, 02:12 AM by dodike.)
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' Wrote:If you dont know I will tell you that every nomad ship and all nomad capital ship guns have been nerfed badly. Labraid, the gunboat and the cruiser are not what they were. The sascya has been updated with little more agility but its turn rate and hitbox is still ...big. The bomber is fine. Marduk is the only epic ship right now.

Nomad ships ARE balanced to Sirius human tech. Something that is against their lore of being...stronger. You can say they have to stay that way? Yea maybe, but you know that usually 2-3 nomad players are going together to travel and search for Rp, while any other faction can send a lot more to counter them.

That happens 70% of the time:)
I guess Nomad stuff got nerfed to encourage people to use their BAF ships to fight Bretonia's enemies instead of logging Keepers characters to turn tides of the battle.

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Offline Slartibartfast
02-10-2012, 01:46 AM,
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' Wrote:but you know that usually 2-3 nomad players are going together to travel and search for Rp, while any other faction can send a lot more to counter them.

That happens 70% of the time:)

Happens 95% of the time on my Xeno. Does that affect Xeno tech balance much? Only thing Xenos have overpowered is the ID :cool:. As it should be.
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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 01:48 AM,
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Agreeable or not, that's how (don't have that as a certain fact, only the balance team devs can say it, but you and i know a little of it) i understand the balance is made.

There is no other decent logic.

And since the thread is about Liberty Navy ships balance vs Order ships (that has small scale interactions according to the balance devs eyes, again assuming), there's no point to be made.

Ingame =/ Lore, thus balancing is made in a total diferent way.

Yes, i agree Liberty Navy ships need a buff.
No, i don't agree it's due to Order ships or that they should be nerfed.

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 01:50 AM,
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' Wrote:I guess Nomad stuff got nerfed to encourage people to use their BAF ships to fight Bretonia's enemies instead of logging Keepers characters to turn tides of the battle.

True that.

But then again, totally in roleplay, amirite? [/sarcasm]

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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-10-2012, 01:56 AM,
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' Wrote:
Agreeable or not, that's how (don't have that as a certain fact, only the balance team devs can say it, but you and i know a little of it) i understand the balance is made.

There is no other decent logic.

And since the thread is about Liberty Navy ships balance vs Order ships (that has small scale interactions according to the balance devs eyes, again assuming), there's no point to be made.

Ingame =/ Lore, thus balancing is made in a total diferent way.

Yes, i agree Liberty Navy ships need a buff.
No, i don't agree it's due to Order ships or that they should be nerfed.

~K.
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Offline VoluptaBox
02-10-2012, 01:56 AM,
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Taking lore into account when balancing ships for a multiplayer game is plain silly. I'd have much more to add, but I'll leave it at that.
Never flown a Nephthys, but I have flown an Avenger a lot. I do fine in it, but it doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. I do agree that, rather than nerfing more and more, a boost to the Avenger would be preferable.

' Wrote:And they call you a bitch:ylove:


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Offline FallenKnight
02-10-2012, 02:01 AM,
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' Wrote:I guess Nomad stuff got nerfed to encourage people to use their BAF ships to fight Bretonia's enemies instead of logging Keepers characters to turn tides of the battle.

' Wrote:
True that.
But then again, totally in roleplay, amirite? [/sarcasm]

You two are clearly insulting me dont you? Maybe you should open a thread instead of throwing such cheap and provoking sentences. I wont even open this old topic again...Your attitude is more than pathetic.

As for the nomad technology and ships, as I said they were nerfed back to human tech mainly because of the scorpion full 8 x nomad gunboat turrets and labraid whines of being super fast.

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 02:07 AM,
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' Wrote:And they call you a bitch:ylove:

Wait until Liberty put Order back in their board in the Sirius Wide category.

Then you'll fall in line like the rest.

@ FallenKnight

U mad bro?

It's a thread about Order tech vs Liberty Tech.
Where i defended that neither Order or even Nom tech need a rebalance.

Plus, the Nom tech was nerfed in .86.

Not in .85, when you pulled that epic stunt.

~K.

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Offline VoluptaBox
02-10-2012, 02:07 AM,
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Don't particularly care about anything nomad related. However, you used the term "whines" which is poor form, not to say wildly inappropriate. You can't honestly tell me that the Labraid wasn't too fast (no idea what's it like now, haven't fought one in a long while).
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