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Let's talk on the Nephthys
Offline McNeo
02-10-2012, 12:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-10-2012, 12:11 AM by McNeo.)
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Okay, so, I don't have 3dsmax to hand, which would really help me make this case.

I also primarily fly [LN] ships, which makes this post probably very bias. However, before you ask, I have flown the Nephthys, Guardian, Titan and Avenger recently in combat.

I've noticed a discrepancy in the Nephthys when compared to the Guardian and the Avenger, namely its turn stats according to FLstat. Here's all the relevant stuff:

Guardian

11000 hitpoints
68 b/b
1.1750 max angular speed (radians/sec)
0.4835 time to 90% max angular (seconds)
11400/1160 powerplant
5 guns/1 turret forwards

Avenger

13200 hitpoints
72 b/b
1.1220 max angular speed (radians/sec)
0.4717 time to 90% max angular (seconds)
15000/1340 powerplant
5 guns/1 turret forwards

Nephthys

14500 hitpoints
78 b/b
1.1707 max angular speed (radians/sec)
0.4717 time to 90% max angular (seconds)
15000/1340 powerplant
6 guns/1 turret forwards

Titan

13500 hitpoints
73 b/b
1.1220 max angular speed (radians/sec)
0.4717 time to 90% max angular (seconds)
15000/1340 powerplant
6 guns forwards

Now, to be honest, I can't see that being justifiable, given that it's so much better than the Avenger while having a similar profile. A profile which the Executioner shares, which Ursus decided to make a thread about somewhere else here. In fact, it keeps up with the Guardian as well, despite having far more hull, regen capacity, power and an extra weapon pointing forwards.

I put the Titan in as well, as it's an example of a fighter that is pretty hard to hit compared to the big ones with the wide wings, if I'm being honest. Sure, it pays for that by being a munitions magnet, but oh well. Personally, I'm not seeing the justification for the Avenger being as poor as it is when put besides the Nephthys, especially without the shape "advantage" of the Titan.

But there we go. I heard that someone was bleeting that the Avenger was overpowered, and I invite those people to spend some time in the Nephthys.
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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-10-2012, 12:13 AM,
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Leave the Nephthys alone:(

It's perfect:(


Edit: But yes, I will say tweak the Avenger. I changed mine to a Guardian; it was a horrendous thing to fly...

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Offline kikatsu
02-10-2012, 12:16 AM,
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It's more lore than mechanics really.

Order is known for having some of the most advanced technology, because of that and their working environment they build some of the best ships.

Problem? Idiots know this and make order characters for peeveepee rather than RP
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Offline McNeo
02-10-2012, 12:17 AM,
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Indeed, and if things were balanced according to the lore, then the Eagle would be worthless put against a military ship, such as a Chimera. Like with fairness and equality, you can't have both at once.
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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-10-2012, 12:26 AM,
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' Wrote:It's more lore than mechanics really.

Order is known for having some of the most advanced technology, because of that and their working environment they build some of the best ships.

Problem? Idiots know this and make order characters for peeveepee rather than RP

I dispute this.

I made an Order char for RP, since I liked the Order. Alot of people can verify i suck at PVP.

I still hated my Avenger. Waaaaaay slower then my Guardians.

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 12:27 AM,
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(yawn)

FYI. Nephtys is sweet.

Turns like an Odin, has Titan core and more armor than a Sabre.

Plus 7 guns.

So epic.

Getting Order full green cell btw.

~K.

Edit: Yes you can make all kind of murdersauce with it.

Is it op for Order. Lolno.
They need it.

It's an all around fighter consistent with the roleplay.

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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-10-2012, 12:28 AM,
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' Wrote:
(yawn)

FYI. Nephtys is sweet.

Turns like an Odin, has Titan core and more armor than a Sabre.

Plus 7 guns.

So epic.

Getting Order full green cell btw.

~K.
Inb4 Order Holywar against you >_> <_< >_< <_<

Not by me tho.

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Offline FallenKnight
02-10-2012, 12:28 AM,
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Well that reminds me of Templar/Lynx comparison:

Templar
14000 hitpoints
76 b/b
1.0976 max angular speed (radians/sec)
0.4717 time to 90% max angular (seconds)
12400/1270 powerplant
6 guns forwards

Lynx
13200 hitpoints
72 b/b
1.1500 max angular speed (radians/sec)
0.4835 time to 90% max angular (seconds)
12400/1270 powerplant
6 guns forwards

' Wrote:It's more lore than mechanics really.
I guess you are right...but if you was totaly right, then the nomads would have the "OP" tech instead of nerfed human like guns.

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Offline Anonymous User
02-10-2012, 12:30 AM,
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you should compare the nephis more to orders real enemies.

Order has to fight nomads/bhgcore/wilde.

navy are just those guys who hate us. not the real enemy

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 12:33 AM,
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' Wrote:you should compare the nephis more to orders real enemies.

Order has to fight nomads/bhgcore/wilde.

navy are just those guys who hate us. not the real enemy

Check my edit.

Was ninja'd.

And yes.

Please.

Holy Jihad War me

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