RR made a decision as a group to attack corsairs, now corsairs view the WHOLE FACTION as hostile, FR5 on all of the faction is in place; Dane, Trigger.
' Wrote:I was under the impression thats how it already worked. After all, an entire faction's diplomacy being ruined by a fraction of its player base player seems unrealistic to me, and i doubt either side would allow it to happen.
That's why there are arguements, interactions, diplomacy, in a casa like zelot described with AFA and TBH, it will not probably get to a FR5 of the entire faction, but if diplomacy fails, it could.
But in a case like RR and the entire corsair nation... well, I doubt the RR has anything to argue with the sairs, other than shooting themselves in the head, and maybe, MAYBE, the sairs would forgive them! : P
' Wrote:RR made a decision as a group to attack corsairs, now corsairs view the WHOLE FACTION as hostile, FR5 on all of the faction is in place; Dane, Tigger.
Again, the Corsairs have never interacted with Danny California, and thus, have no inrp knowledge that said individual is a Renegade.
Said individual has never fired a shot, nor used harsh language, nor even been within 14k of any Corsair.
Thus, Danny California is not known to the corsairs.
' Wrote:All of you calm down. I'd hate to see this locked.
-me
Seconded. Vito, this applies to everyone. Please, take your own advice.
I would like to add, corsairs are welcome to FR5 Medb hostile.
However, I would like to point out that Medb wasn't involved in the whole corsair thing, medb was never a part of the whole merc thing in the taus and never left Rheinland (and the surrounding systems [save to go to 49 to get SNACs]). Medb did not have a factiontag, like all RR ships, and additionally was not active in the group in forever. Therefore, I fail to see how the corsairs would either identify medb as a renegade, or identify him as hostile without metagaming. Of course, if that's now normal behaviour on Disco....please be my guest. I'll just be forced to shoot corsairs in whatever RP I throw Medb into next...which would make me a very happy bunny seeming as I already know where he is going *winks at Dane*
Whilst I left because I didn't like where RR was going. I'm behind Veygaar 100% here. I'm not entirely convinced everything being said here is constructive.
EDIT: on the tag issue....afaik, Lanehackers don't generally use tags (except for their low ranks)
In contrast, the renegade leaders use the Rip.***.Rorry tag.
Okey, pair 'o digms, and if it doesn't buy me much, you can keep the change..
It seems to me that the whole "concept" of Factions is to be uniquely identified as a group, to share the same [***], and to take pride in being known by said [***].
"Official" Factions are even required to do so, I believe.. if not, correct me. Unofficial facttions tend to follow suit, whether through sharing the same ideals, or just being buds who like to fly together.
It would seem to me that this whole furball would disappear if the Renegades would simply follow "convention". The whole "secrecy" thing doesn't sit well with me. I'm sorry, but it doesn't.
If the Renegades want to Tag Up, thats there business - as said, I left the faction.
And if anyone thinks im doing so to escape an FR5, i can show skype logs where i talked about this yesterday.
Either way, my pirate Roc I deleted, so theres no ship to FR5. but i may have future plans with that character, and being permanently rep hacked hostile to corsairs may be an inconvenience.
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