BTW I got curious and did some testing yesterday. For reference, the BAF and RNC destroyers can only fire three pulse or LM simultaneously (ie, 2 pulse and 1 LM, or vice versa). The LABC has enough power to fire 2 pulse, 3 LM, and 1 BR at the same time. Seriously its OP
' Wrote:BTW I got curious and did some testing yesterday. For reference, the BAF and RNC destroyers can only fire three pulse or LM simultaneously (ie, 2 pulse and 1 LM, or vice versa). The LABC has enough power to fire 2 pulse, 3 LM, and 1 BR at the same time. Seriously its OP
It's because the RNC and BAF destroyers are cruisers and the LABC is a Battlecruiser. See the difference ?
' Wrote:It's because the RNC and BAF destroyers are cruisers and the LABC is a Battlecruiser. See the difference ?
hes right, the comparison is still valid tho since they dont have battlecruisers. liberty likes being unique:)
and i rly hope they dont flood all the other houses with bc's, balance isnt something i see as needed since every house is unique. i mean, take bretonia for example, they're caps just plain suck haha
' Wrote:hes right, the comparison is still valid tho since they dont have battlecruisers.
It is not really valid comparing the pcore of two ships of different classes by just their size.
' Wrote:liberty likes being unique:)
okay.
' Wrote:and i rly hope they dont flood all the other houses with bc's, balance isnt something i see as needed since every house is unique. i mean, take bretonia for example, they're caps just plain suck haha
' Wrote:It's because the RNC and BAF destroyers are cruisers and the LABC is a Battlecruiser. See the difference ?
Yeah I saw the difference with the LSC too. LSC was basically a throwaway ship that could not go toe-to-toe, with fewer guns and one of them fixed position. Now the LABC makes every other cruiser a throwaway ship, just sacrifice the pawns when LABC comes on the field.
I mean look the LABC has the most hardpoints, PLUS the ability to mount battleship-class turrets, PLUS enough power core to fire ALL OF THE TURRETS simultaneously. No other cruiser can fire all of its weaker turrets simultaneously, nevermind fire all of them plus some battleship turrets. It's ridiculous OP. Kill an unawares enemy cruiser in one or two salvos. Don't worry enemies, I haz slow cruise speed, so we're balanced! Honest, remove two of the class 6 turrets and cut the power core by 20%. Yes I have one.
The LABC is less maneuverable, has less cruise acceleration, is [I think] a bigger target then many other cruisers.
It's a Battlecruiser. Stop comparing Battlecruisers toe-to-toe with other cruisers. It doesn't work, seriously, it is a different shipclass stats-wise; as different as Fighters and Bombers are different ship classes stats-wise.
If you think it's so seriously OP, take out two bombers and kill one.
' Wrote:Yeah I saw the difference with the LSC too. LSC was basically a throwaway ship that could not go toe-to-toe, with fewer guns and one of them fixed position. Now the LABC makes every other cruiser a throwaway ship, just sacrifice the pawns when LABC comes on the field.
I mean look the LABC has the most hardpoints, PLUS the ability to mount battleship-class turrets, PLUS enough power core to fire ALL OF THE TURRETS simultaneously. No other cruiser can fire all of its weaker turrets simultaneously, nevermind fire all of them plus some battleship turrets. It's ridiculous OP. Kill an unawares enemy cruiser in one or two salvos. Don't worry enemies, I haz slow cruise speed, so we're balanced! Honest, remove two of the class 6 turrets and cut the power core by 20%. Yes I have one.
im my opinion i see standerd cruisers as support ships. especially libs with its forward gun. they are meant to assist larger craft like bs's and bc's. i see the battlecruiser as a ship thats "built" to go toe-to-toe with other ships, hence its superiority
' Wrote:take bretonia for example, they're caps just plain suck haha
Very simple fix for those is to let more of the turrets move 360. It has fewer guns and modest power core, so its only advantage is its decent shape, but if something gets behind you then go ahead and roll over cause you cant shoot more a couple of class 6 turrets back there. Some of the turrets are blocked on whim alone, free those up and it will be a decent cruiser.
' Wrote:Very simple fix for those is to let more of the turrets move 360. It has fewer guns and modest power core, so its only advantage is its decent shape, but if something gets behind you then go ahead and roll over cause you cant shoot more a couple of class 6 turrets back there. Some of the turrets are blocked on whim alone, free those up and it will be a decent cruiser.
i think the brets cruiser looks pretty cool, very unique in my opinion, but never bought it because of its turtle like combat capability lol
' Wrote:i think the brets cruiser looks pretty cool, very unique in my opinion, but never bought it because of its turtle like combat capability lol
It's not that bad. A lot of enemy fire goes right around it, and it is a little more responsive so you can turn a bit easier too. Hard to judge sometimes since the same houses dont fight the same spawns. Kusari NPC battleship groups would just obliterate it, Gallia NPC battleship groups are cake.
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