........Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;..........But when the blast of war blows in our ears,.....
........Or close the wall up with our English dead...........................Then imitate the action of the tiger;.................
........In peace there's nothing so becomes a man........................Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,.........
........As modest stillness and humility:........................................Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage!....
Dasher
"Another popup faction. Great. What's wrong with my popup blocker?" - Denelo
"Oh come on, slow and steady doesn't win any races, fast and steady does."
' Wrote:LOL whats this prove this and prove that. Nothing in the process of obtaining a faction stated that we had to prove anything. Everything that we had to prove was proven on Void.
We are not walking onto this server feeling like we have to prove anything, because you may not get the desired result. Setting our clan up for failure as some of you are just waiting to say "I told ya so" is not an option. No we are going to do exactly what was requested of us we.. WE .. are going to chose the desired faction and submit it as all of you have. A request for anything else is unwarranted.
Yes sir, you did have something to prove and with that statement you did all the proving I need. Again noone here gives a rats arse what you did on Void... This is not Void. What about that are you failing to see here. Folks here do not and are not judged by their ability to PvP. Besides I for one, as well as the majority here know nothing of you and your escapades on Void. You and your clan maybe the best damn PvPers Freelancer has ever seen, that don't mean jack here. We judge based on the much more dificult ability to RP. You PROVE that you and your mates can do that, and you will get along just fine. I do have to say though, your arrogance is very unbecoming and will get TR|AD absolutely no where.
And BTW, everyone here has, at one time or another (including myself), had to prove themselves here. Why should you and your clan be any different. Being the best PvP clan on Void dont prove s**t! Call me a complete geek (my wife does) but this server means a lot to me and I will defend it from those who wish to usurp it and destroy the very esence of its existence. That esence lies in its community and its RP, and Im sorry, but your clan will conform to the way we do things around here, we will not make concessions to your ways. And no, I, no, WE are not being elitist, we are protecting our beloved server from "clans" like [DIC], F.E.A.R. and a slew of other import-a-factions that did everything they could to ruin our fun and our server.
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Ok well we won't attempt to win any wars on any forum, sorry.
Rep your correct This is NOT Void, But the only reason your posting is because of our rep on Void and other games. Thats some what hypocritical to me, so make your mind up..
To sit here and require to prove this and that would require proof that we lack the ability to learn to RP. We have failed at nothing in the past so where is your proof that we cant?
The only thing you can say about us is we can fight well, obviously we don't have to prove that but that's all you know about us...and that has some people worried they may have to step up their game a bit....well too bad.. you get out what you put in and we put in a lot of training if you don't thats on you.
We will not apologize because the pirates on Discovery are sitting right next to police while they pirate, talking about the soccer over a spot of tea. Thats what I see the RP is on this server ( yeh it happened today in sigma 13 )
I won't apologize because some of the people don't like us because we ran them off servers. Get over it... THIS AIN'T VOID!!... remember..
I won't apologize because I see DTA as the example of a true Freelancer unit...they should be in the hall of fame in my eyes.
I wont apologize for shooting people in a shooting game, my weapons are not for decoration.
I will apologize to my clan for giving some of you the benefit of the doubt that you could follow the directions on the original post and that you could grasp the spirit that the post was intended.
I will apologize to whomever pays the bill for the server that this forum is on for creating a post that has waisted so much bandwidth.
I will apologize to the people that actually defended TRIAD, putting you in a position that people may see you in a different light.
I'll leave you with this and will never ever post here again...
YOU GIVE RESPECT ... YOU GET RESPECT...
For those that followed the format of the post.. I will personally go back through all 144 post and thank you individually. On rare occasions I have been shown the decency to acknowledge my question some of you have presented some great ideas and I thank you. For those that didn't, I'm unable to say what I really want to say so I'll leave you with ...nothing. As you can see it's very hard to ruffle my feathers... I show the same resolve in battle, for some of you I look forward to it.
And, if there were police speaking to pirates in Sigma 13, then there's multiple things wrong. 1) Police shouldn't be there. 2) They shouldn't be speaking to pirates.
Might want to read your own post there my friend, especially that large font part. And no I am posting because of the reputation you have established here in this forum, I know nothing of your time on Void. So please check your facts before accusing me of being a hypocrite. The only reason I know of anything relating to TR|AD on Void is because you have strongly pointed out how great you all were there.
And lastly do not insult our entire community based on the actions of a couple, most likely very new players who were not following the RP structure. However I fear my words are falling on closed ears, so I digress, I will leave this thread open, although I fear it has grown ever pointless. But all else may have at it.
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' Wrote:Actually, Cobra, it seems you have a lot to prove here, and its something that you can't prove on void.
We want you here, only if you can RP.
If you can singlehandedly kill the whole of the MK, that impresses me, a bit.
But, if you could produce a Snubnose, or a Veranda, or a Ghosts of the Past, or a In The Queen's Service, then we would be impressed.
Thats the secret.
We are, at our heart, a guild of writers.
well said.
and secondly, i knew this will end up in some bad corner (like it has), so i refrained from posting. all im going to say is, is it really hard for you to just pick a faction that sounds right for you, and make a blooming Rp story about how u came here, what your goals are, and what you hope to establish? ffs, all you are doing here is getting a bashing from everywhere, and you are doing nothing to stop it, but just increase it tenfold, and quite frankly, its really annoying to wake up and read 4 pages of flaming.
Im all for giving the Triad a chance, just like all of us. the only reason most people here are angry is cuz of the fact that you wish to PVP (like you did on void), and from your first post, it sounds like not only do you want us to give you a suggestion for faction, but write your RP story for it as well!
IF you really want to see some changes around here, start by changing your attitude to this mess. calm down a bit, take yer time, and think, what your doing here. think, if your words are going to cause more flaming, or some actualy Contructive critisism. Im Sick and tired of so many new people coming, and saying words that will guarantee end up in flamefest 2008.
heres a suggestion: like xoria said, try to RP a junker. sigma 13 sees alot of action. if you dont wanna RP a junker, stop wasting your time argueing (flaming tbh -.- ) with people here, and pick a faction. make an RP story about how u came about to lead the faction, what ships you guna fly, your faction diplomacy's, etc. etc.
thing is, void and discovery are nothing like each other. whenever people say that they have come from void, people here think twice about stuff, cuz quite frankly, the rules for void and the rules for discovery are way too different. we have had to deal with... for lack of a better word.. IDIOTS who have crom from void, and causing problems here. (not calling u one btw:P)
anyway, all in all, i say to give you a chance ONLY if you are willing to co-operate with kind words (dont want another flamefest now :angry:) and do something about your faction. Make an RP story, pick a faction, pick your diplomacy, etc. and post it here for all to see. im sure, if you come up with a decent RP, you will be welcomed just like any other person. (btw, no nomads, wild or terrorist factions -.- )
hope ya have a good time, and take heed to some of the stuff thats been said. i dont mean to flame, but seriously, this is taking the ****, this thread. :(
Admin sould probly lock this theres not much more to be said other than flames. Let cobra come up with some RP by reading the background historys of a faction then we can see wheather Tr|ad sould be here or not.
I apologise for the earlier harshness of my original post, but my first point does still stand. Everyone does need to earn their respect here, and not have it handed to them on a plate. But on the same note, everyone does deserve a first chance, if nothing else. I also agree with many of the opinions posted here and especially that of Frozen, above.
That said, who are these "well-known" other Discovery players you mentioned? It might perhaps be better to get them in here as well. If they don't really want to, assuming they actually exist of course (forgive me for being sceptical, but just putting it honestly), then fair enough. But what about your other TR|AD members? Perhaps they should post here also, giving their views on the situation, or perhaps suggestions to put forward regarding your potential integration into the Discovery Roleplaying Server 24/7.
But at the end of the day, you will be welcome here if you can roleplay decently. Sure, kill lots of people if you like, but do it RP and fairly! That's all we ask. None of this "ooh there's a player who isn't in TR|AD! Blam!, there's another! Blam Blam! Wow, we're racking up the kill count today!". It would get old very fast and very few people here would tolerate it in any case. I've been killed quite a lot of times by quite a lot of different people. I've also killed quite a lot of people in quite a lot of different situations.
I'm not that great a pilot, probably roughly average, but it doesn't really matter to me. Rarely, if ever, have I brought away anything but good feelings from it and i've had a good laugh and some damn fun roleplay. I don't want to see that fun atmosphere on here ruined, anymore than anyone else here does.
So, as a lot of people here have suggested, take on the role of one of the existing factions. I personally think you should probably go Xeno and harass the Liberty lawful forces and phenomenal amount of traders going through Liberty. The Junkers in Sigma 13, as has already been suggested, is another great viable option. There'll be no shortage of targets for you there, I guarantee it. But do it right, and get advice on roleplaying more effectively if you're not sure how best to go about roleplaying with Xenos in Disco. Give it a try, you might even enjoy it, even without being able to PvP massacre when/wherever.
I will leave you with one final piece (and it might be harsh but it needs to be said, for reiteration): This is NOT Void.