' Wrote:If people are really serious about making mining viable and more enjoyable, is it possible to make some of the objects in the asteroid fields (storage depots, mining ships, satelites) into stations that don't trade in commodities? Would give people a way to quickly make a legitimate dock, in RP, and reduce the incidents of catastrophic loss of mined cargo.
I believe that has already been done to some extent. I had a relevant experience several months ago, but I can't remember if I was playing on a standard or Discovery (4.82 or 4.83) server (probably a Discovery server). I had just used a jump hole to enter Sigma-13 from either Sigma-17 or Sigma-19. I was attacked by NPCs (either Outcasts or Corsairs) as soon as I entered Sigma-13. After defeating and/or outrunning the NPCs, I needed some repairs. I saw one of the gas miners nearby (an unnamed gas miner, not Gas Miner Naha) and noticed that it was on my radar as a dockable location (it had a different symbol than locations which aren't dockable, such as wrecks, satellites and storage depots). I used F3 to dock with that anonymous gas miner and discovered that I could get repaired there, though I couldn't buy any supplies (not even bots or bats). I was surprised to find that the gas miner had a commodities dealer which sold h-fuel for $5 per unit, so I bought some h-fuel before leaving.:D
Yeah, had the same once, Anywho - if basic minerals are removed from bases as buyable and the drop rates get upped EVEN more - we could well get mining to what it should be.
However - I tend to disagree with the statement, that the "mining" bases - closest to the field should pay good. I'd suggest a compromise: Let those minerals be priced decently - like any random trade route - some 2000 creds per 20 minute run = if ya can fill your hold within 20 minutes - you get 2k credits.
HOWEVER - if you have a buddy in a train, who could do rounds between you - the miner and the industrial base like the Ring, Liepzig, some shipyards, Scarborough etc... - you'll earn at least 3 times more than if you'd be a loner and dropping the goods off at the closest base. That way - it's profitable for the two players on the round - each of them gets 1.5 times more than if he'd be alone and going easy.
I like the idea of increasing the sell and buy credits by 1k and the idea. But i would not set up new statins or make them dockable just because of the miners. There must be some risc in it and pirates should have a chance to find the miners. If this idea will be realized I will also start a mining char.
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' Wrote:but if Igiss dont want to do that maybe we could just multiply the number of items that a rock drop
eg. instead of one diamond, it could drop ten
It already was increased once.... and I think it's ok now (it drops some 5-10 per rock I believe)... it should take some time to mine... but the prices are too low yes.
Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.
@kingvaillant:
Increasing the number of items would not work because you can not carry more or earn more money with this (if you do not have the cargospace)
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I once had a miner in Bretonia and it took about 10 little rocks to get me one drop of gold and that was only 2 gold. But I could go about 5k and dock on a base and buy a full load cheaply very fast.
Also I tryed to mine Artifacts but after 20min in a location that is ment to drop them I had 0 artifacts and gave up.
So though the drops where increased the only way to fill a ship in a resonable ammount of time is with things like water so I think an increase in selling price and a little bit higher drops in some fields.
Kiggles:mellow:
I've been mildly miffed by one-shot weapons since their implementation, oh so long ago. I remember the days when fights were a matter of who could aim better, rather than who could aim a single shot. - Virus
One of my characters is a Miner. I like mining - but you can't build a character up from scratch mining. I have to set the character up with funds from my trader. The miner is a good RP character - a miner explorer - gives me good reason to visit lots of outlying systems. I do mine in O49 - but it is really a case of making 'milk money'.
Traveling around in the Omegas, taus and Omicrons is expensive - lots of repairs due to radiation and NPC fights. A little mining will pay for these repairs... But I am not going to save up for a cruiser off of mining!
I would also like to add that Unlike making missions pay out more Mining would be a suitable alternative to trading as having many people mining should not cause lag on the scale of missions (though it may cause more than trading due to loot in space.)
Kiggles:mellow:
I've been mildly miffed by one-shot weapons since their implementation, oh so long ago. I remember the days when fights were a matter of who could aim better, rather than who could aim a single shot. - Virus
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