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Ingenious · (This post was last modified: 03-03-2013, 09:59 PM by Ingenious.)

(03-03-2013, 09:57 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: (conclusive evidence of abuse)

Oh boy, this is going to be rich. I wonder what they will say.

Yaoquizque · 03-03-2013, 09:59 PM,

Alright... What was even the point to make that thread? To start a flamewar?

West made a mistake. He allowed you to begin the construction without checking. He however did ask you to check Kusari legal codex. Too bad he didn't have -logappend to prove it, but whatever.

So yes. We did commit a mistake. You did as well by not checking Kusari laws before starting the construction of your base. Better be safe than sorry no?

Now... Here is the tl&dr logs of my conversation with you today.

Code:
[03.03.2013 18:13:30] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Kishiro~Spa. Please come in.

[03.03.2013 18:13:39] Kishiro~Spa: ?

[03.03.2013 18:13:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Are you the owner of this base?

[03.03.2013 18:14:21] Kishiro~Spa: Yes, one of the owners

[03.03.2013 18:14:54] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Very well. Your base is violating Kusari Codex. You didn't request the authorization from Kishiro technologies to build this.

[03.03.2013 18:15:14] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Secondly, your installation should have been at a 3K distance from Shinagawa.

[03.03.2013 18:15:44] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are ready to allow you to empty this base and get its crew before we have to destroy it.

[03.03.2013 18:15:46] Kishiro~Spa: We are a branch of Kishiro Technologies, and according to the codex, it must be near the vicinity of a pernament base.

[03.03.2013 18:16:19] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: You are a branch of Kishiro Technologies. Yet you didn't made a request to Kishiro, am i wrong on this?

[03.03.2013 18:16:30] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Secondly, please read the section 8.2 of the codex again.

[03.03.2013 18:16:34] Kishiro~Spa: I have visual confirmation from a navy vessel for the construction of this base, and also on the Kusari Network.

[03.03.2013 18:16:46] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I am well aware.

[03.03.2013 18:17:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We gave the authorization, granted this base wasn't violating the Codex.

[03.03.2013 18:17:17] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Which it does.

[03.03.2013 18:17:32] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I am very sorry, captain. But this base must go away.

[03.03.2013 18:17:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are ready to reimburse you a part of the expenses you made.

[03.03.2013 18:17:59] Kishiro~Spa: Perhaps we may move the base, we will suspend the construction

[03.03.2013 18:18:07] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Hai.

[03.03.2013 18:18:08] Kishiro~Spa: And see if we can move it.

[03.03.2013 18:18:31] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Either build this base in one of the allowed area, or make a request to Kishiro Technologies main branch, please.

[03.03.2013 18:18:32] Kishiro~Spa: But, I ask for a temporary status, to check if it is possible.

[03.03.2013 18:18:53] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We won't fire at your base, so that you can evacuate the crew and the vital resources inside.

[03.03.2013 18:19:00] Kishiro~Spa: Will it be possible to hold this base until such approvements have been made?

[03.03.2013 18:19:01] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are giving you a chance. Don't fool us.

[03.03.2013 18:19:43] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Even if you receive the authorization from the main Kishiro branch, the base is still violating section 8.2

[03.03.2013 18:20:14] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: If you do get the authorization from Kishiro, rebuild this base at least 3k away from any structure. This includes trade lanes.

[03.03.2013 18:20:23] Kishiro~Spa: Still, I wish to move the base, without damaging it, that is why I wish to hold a temporary soltuion

[03.03.2013 18:20:26] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Perhaps Fuji orbit would be a wise choice?

[03.03.2013 18:21:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I do not think bases can be moved.

[03.03.2013 18:21:42] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Already built ones, that is.

[03.03.2013 18:22:40] Kishiro~Spa: // talking to an admin, maybe it is possible, but meh, we've missed that line 

[03.03.2013 18:23:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // Happens. I'm sorry. West granted the authorization without checked first

[03.03.2013 18:23:23] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // so it's a bit our fault too

[03.03.2013 18:23:26] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah its kinda of our downer

[03.03.2013 18:23:29] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // checking*

[03.03.2013 18:23:53] Kishiro~Spa: // if the admin can.. which i hope will.. ill do it correctly i guess

[03.03.2013 18:23:57] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i think ideally, that base should be between Izu and Fuji

[03.03.2013 18:24:06] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // that would make a sweet spot for a base

[03.03.2013 18:24:10] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah but he told us it must be near the base..

[03.03.2013 18:24:14] Kishiro~Spa: // so.. ugh

[03.03.2013 18:24:23] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // wait on, i will check the codex again

[03.03.2013 18:25:15] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // it must be near it yes. I'd say it's a 3K - 10k radius around Shinagawa

[03.03.2013 18:26:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // where i am now would be fine

[03.03.2013 18:26:03] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // please check

[03.03.2013 18:27:23] Kishiro~Spa: // oh man what a downer

[03.03.2013 18:27:32] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //what's up?

[03.03.2013 18:28:15] Kishiro~Spa: // im waiting for widow

[03.03.2013 18:28:18] Kishiro~Spa: // maybe he can move it

[03.03.2013 18:28:39] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // she?

[03.03.2013 18:28:47] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i think that's a female, yeah.

[03.03.2013 18:28:49] Kishiro~Spa: // s*

[03.03.2013 18:34:36] Kishiro~Spa: // sorry if i waste ur time but i really want to see if they can move it, we've worked hard for this meh

[03.03.2013 18:34:51] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // np

[03.03.2013 18:35:02] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //is widow gone?

[03.03.2013 18:35:48] Kishiro~Spa: // still here constultiung

[03.03.2013 18:43:42] Kishiro~Spa: // man the hell with this, ima quit this shtty game its all metagaming anyway, and all that time for nothing

[03.03.2013 18:43:44] Kishiro~Spa: destroy it

[03.03.2013 18:44:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // they do'nt want to move it?

[03.03.2013 18:44:07] Kishiro~Spa: // they dont repspond

[03.03.2013 18:44:14] Kishiro~Spa: // and now i gotta suffer cuz i had bad information

[03.03.2013 18:44:22] Kishiro~Spa: // thats textbook bullsht

[03.03.2013 18:44:26] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // do you have a skype?

[03.03.2013 18:44:32] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah

[03.03.2013 18:44:40] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //give it to me, please

...

[03.03.2013 18:44:52] KDS-Kitakami: //mkay

[03.03.2013 18:45:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // admins are humans too. They may be busy

[03.03.2013 18:45:52] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // give it a few hours

[03.03.2013 18:46:12] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i will try to contact one of them

[03.03.2013 18:52:59] Kishiro~Spa: // well he was looking on my pm for five minutes and now he went to another page, so what now :(

[03.03.2013 18:53:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // no idea

[03.03.2013 18:54:33] Kishiro~Spa: more like 2 days

[03.03.2013 18:54:49] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: If you say so.

[03.03.2013 18:55:06] Kishiro~Spa: // you think the knf will approve it if i tell them the situation?

[03.03.2013 18:55:42] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i'm sorry but no. Not so close to shinagawa. It must be at least 3k afar from anything.

[03.03.2013 18:58:15] Kishiro~Spa: // 5 minutes ill give u a anwser

[03.03.2013 18:58:28] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // aight.

[03.03.2013 18:58:40] Kishiro~Spa: // anyhow, if its a no, ill take the fuel off from it so u can destroy it easy but f-uck this game

[03.03.2013 18:58:57] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // sorry..

Does it look we were unreasonable about it and just started to lolsiege your base because we are bad people? I even proposed you to reimburse you a part of the expenses....

And then you make a whine thread.
Okay.

To the others people posting here and just saying "Kusari factions are bad mkay", knf has a feedback thread just for this. For you to let us know when we are doing something wrong.

Finally, about Itabashi. That base was constructed by the KSP dudes during the short time they were official. KNF was never consulted about its emplacement, as far as i know, and it would have been stupid to start a siege against a KSP base.
About BDS building it and putting the defense mode to "lolshoot anything red with Hogosha", i already gave my opinion about it in another thread.
And KNF can't do jacktits about Itabashi, alright? The government wouldn't allow it.

So, in a nutshell, there have been wrongs on both sides.
But i'm pretty sure making that kind of thread doesn't solve anything.

Ingenious · 03-03-2013, 10:01 PM,

(03-03-2013, 09:59 PM)Yaoquizque Wrote: But i'm pretty sure making that kind of thread doesn't solve anything.

You could just, you know, let someone RP Kishiro ... it is next to a Kishiro base...

Zen_Mechanics · 03-03-2013, 10:05 PM,

(03-03-2013, 09:59 PM)Yaoquizque Wrote: Alright... What was even the point to make that thread? To start a flamewar?

West made a mistake. He allowed you to begin the construction without checking. He however did ask you to check Kusari legal codex. Too bad he didn't have -logappend to prove it, but whatever.

So yes. We did commit a mistake. You did as well by not checking Kusari laws before starting the construction of your base. Better be safe than sorry no?

Now... Here is the tl&dr logs of my conversation with you today.

Code:
[03.03.2013 18:13:30] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Kishiro~Spa. Please come in. [03.03.2013 18:13:39] Kishiro~Spa: ? [03.03.2013 18:13:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Are you the owner of this base? [03.03.2013 18:14:21] Kishiro~Spa: Yes, one of the owners [03.03.2013 18:14:54] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Very well. Your base is violating Kusari Codex. You didn't request the authorization from Kishiro technologies to build this. [03.03.2013 18:15:14] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Secondly, your installation should have been at a 3K distance from Shinagawa. [03.03.2013 18:15:44] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are ready to allow you to empty this base and get its crew before we have to destroy it. [03.03.2013 18:15:46] Kishiro~Spa: We are a branch of Kishiro Technologies, and according to the codex, it must be near the vicinity of a pernament base. [03.03.2013 18:16:19] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: You are a branch of Kishiro Technologies. Yet you didn't made a request to Kishiro, am i wrong on this? [03.03.2013 18:16:30] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Secondly, please read the section 8.2 of the codex again. [03.03.2013 18:16:34] Kishiro~Spa: I have visual confirmation from a navy vessel for the construction of this base, and also on the Kusari Network. [03.03.2013 18:16:46] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I am well aware. [03.03.2013 18:17:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We gave the authorization, granted this base wasn't violating the Codex. [03.03.2013 18:17:17] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Which it does. [03.03.2013 18:17:32] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I am very sorry, captain. But this base must go away. [03.03.2013 18:17:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are ready to reimburse you a part of the expenses you made. [03.03.2013 18:17:59] Kishiro~Spa: Perhaps we may move the base, we will suspend the construction [03.03.2013 18:18:07] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Hai. [03.03.2013 18:18:08] Kishiro~Spa: And see if we can move it. [03.03.2013 18:18:31] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Either build this base in one of the allowed area, or make a request to Kishiro Technologies main branch, please. [03.03.2013 18:18:32] Kishiro~Spa: But, I ask for a temporary status, to check if it is possible. [03.03.2013 18:18:53] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We won't fire at your base, so that you can evacuate the crew and the vital resources inside. [03.03.2013 18:19:00] Kishiro~Spa: Will it be possible to hold this base until such approvements have been made? [03.03.2013 18:19:01] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are giving you a chance. Don't fool us. [03.03.2013 18:19:43] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Even if you receive the authorization from the main Kishiro branch, the base is still violating section 8.2 [03.03.2013 18:20:14] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: If you do get the authorization from Kishiro, rebuild this base at least 3k away from any structure. This includes trade lanes. [03.03.2013 18:20:23] Kishiro~Spa: Still, I wish to move the base, without damaging it, that is why I wish to hold a temporary soltuion [03.03.2013 18:20:26] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Perhaps Fuji orbit would be a wise choice? [03.03.2013 18:21:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I do not think bases can be moved. [03.03.2013 18:21:42] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Already built ones, that is. [03.03.2013 18:22:40] Kishiro~Spa: // talking to an admin, maybe it is possible, but meh, we've missed that line [03.03.2013 18:23:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // Happens. I'm sorry. West granted the authorization without checked first [03.03.2013 18:23:23] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // so it's a bit our fault too [03.03.2013 18:23:26] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah its kinda of our downer [03.03.2013 18:23:29] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // checking* [03.03.2013 18:23:53] Kishiro~Spa: // if the admin can.. which i hope will.. ill do it correctly i guess [03.03.2013 18:23:57] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i think ideally, that base should be between Izu and Fuji [03.03.2013 18:24:06] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // that would make a sweet spot for a base [03.03.2013 18:24:10] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah but he told us it must be near the base.. [03.03.2013 18:24:14] Kishiro~Spa: // so.. ugh [03.03.2013 18:24:23] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // wait on, i will check the codex again [03.03.2013 18:25:15] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // it must be near it yes. I'd say it's a 3K - 10k radius around Shinagawa [03.03.2013 18:26:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // where i am now would be fine [03.03.2013 18:26:03] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // please check [03.03.2013 18:27:23] Kishiro~Spa: // oh man what a downer [03.03.2013 18:27:32] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //what's up? [03.03.2013 18:28:15] Kishiro~Spa: // im waiting for widow [03.03.2013 18:28:18] Kishiro~Spa: // maybe he can move it [03.03.2013 18:28:39] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // she? [03.03.2013 18:28:47] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i think that's a female, yeah. [03.03.2013 18:28:49] Kishiro~Spa: // s* [03.03.2013 18:34:36] Kishiro~Spa: // sorry if i waste ur time but i really want to see if they can move it, we've worked hard for this meh [03.03.2013 18:34:51] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // np [03.03.2013 18:35:02] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //is widow gone? [03.03.2013 18:35:48] Kishiro~Spa: // still here constultiung [03.03.2013 18:43:42] Kishiro~Spa: // man the hell with this, ima quit this shtty game its all metagaming anyway, and all that time for nothing [03.03.2013 18:43:44] Kishiro~Spa: destroy it [03.03.2013 18:44:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // they do'nt want to move it? [03.03.2013 18:44:07] Kishiro~Spa: // they dont repspond [03.03.2013 18:44:14] Kishiro~Spa: // and now i gotta suffer cuz i had bad information [03.03.2013 18:44:22] Kishiro~Spa: // thats textbook bullsht [03.03.2013 18:44:26] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // do you have a skype? [03.03.2013 18:44:32] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah [03.03.2013 18:44:40] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //give it to me, please ... [03.03.2013 18:44:52] KDS-Kitakami: //mkay [03.03.2013 18:45:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // admins are humans too. They may be busy [03.03.2013 18:45:52] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // give it a few hours [03.03.2013 18:46:12] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i will try to contact one of them [03.03.2013 18:52:59] Kishiro~Spa: // well he was looking on my pm for five minutes and now he went to another page, so what now :( [03.03.2013 18:53:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // no idea [03.03.2013 18:54:33] Kishiro~Spa: more like 2 days [03.03.2013 18:54:49] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: If you say so. [03.03.2013 18:55:06] Kishiro~Spa: // you think the knf will approve it if i tell them the situation? [03.03.2013 18:55:42] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i'm sorry but no. Not so close to shinagawa. It must be at least 3k afar from anything. [03.03.2013 18:58:15] Kishiro~Spa: // 5 minutes ill give u a anwser [03.03.2013 18:58:28] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // aight. [03.03.2013 18:58:40] Kishiro~Spa: // anyhow, if its a no, ill take the fuel off from it so u can destroy it easy but f-uck this game [03.03.2013 18:58:57] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // sorry..

Does it look we were unreasonable about it and just started to lolsiege your base because we are bad people? I even proposed you to reimburse you a part of the expenses....

And then you make a whine thread.
Okay.

To the others people posting here and just saying "Kusari factions are bad mkay", knf has a feedback thread just for this. For you to let us know when we are doing something wrong.

Finally, about Itabashi. That base was constructed by the KSP dudes during the short time they were official. KNF was never consulted about its emplacement, as far as i know, and it would have been stupid to start a siege against a KSP base.
About BDS building it and putting the defense mode to "lolshoot anything red with Hogosha", i already gave my opinion about it in another thread.
And KNF can't do jacktits about Itabashi, alright? The government wouldn't allow it.

So, in a nutshell, there have been wrongs on both sides.
But i'm pretty sure making that kind of thread doesn't solve anything.

I know man, and i appericiate our talk, thats why im looking for a solution.. i can't rebuild cuz i got no time anymore for that,
im looking for a solution, moving can't be done, so now i face destruction, that's a reasonable thing for me to open a thread.. u gotta understand me.

Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

Flash™ · 03-03-2013, 10:06 PM,

(03-03-2013, 09:59 PM)Yaoquizque Wrote: Alright... What was even the point to make that thread? To start a flamewar?

West made a mistake. He allowed you to begin the construction without checking. He however did ask you to check Kusari legal codex. Too bad he didn't have -logappend to prove it, but whatever.

So yes. We did commit a mistake. You did as well by not checking Kusari laws before starting the construction of your base. Better be safe than sorry no?

Now... Here is the tl&dr logs of my conversation with you today.

Code:
[03.03.2013 18:13:30] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Kishiro~Spa. Please come in. [03.03.2013 18:13:39] Kishiro~Spa: ? [03.03.2013 18:13:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Are you the owner of this base? [03.03.2013 18:14:21] Kishiro~Spa: Yes, one of the owners [03.03.2013 18:14:54] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Very well. Your base is violating Kusari Codex. You didn't request the authorization from Kishiro technologies to build this. [03.03.2013 18:15:14] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Secondly, your installation should have been at a 3K distance from Shinagawa. [03.03.2013 18:15:44] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are ready to allow you to empty this base and get its crew before we have to destroy it. [03.03.2013 18:15:46] Kishiro~Spa: We are a branch of Kishiro Technologies, and according to the codex, it must be near the vicinity of a pernament base. [03.03.2013 18:16:19] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: You are a branch of Kishiro Technologies. Yet you didn't made a request to Kishiro, am i wrong on this? [03.03.2013 18:16:30] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Secondly, please read the section 8.2 of the codex again. [03.03.2013 18:16:34] Kishiro~Spa: I have visual confirmation from a navy vessel for the construction of this base, and also on the Kusari Network. [03.03.2013 18:16:46] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I am well aware. [03.03.2013 18:17:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We gave the authorization, granted this base wasn't violating the Codex. [03.03.2013 18:17:17] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Which it does. [03.03.2013 18:17:32] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I am very sorry, captain. But this base must go away. [03.03.2013 18:17:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are ready to reimburse you a part of the expenses you made. [03.03.2013 18:17:59] Kishiro~Spa: Perhaps we may move the base, we will suspend the construction [03.03.2013 18:18:07] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Hai. [03.03.2013 18:18:08] Kishiro~Spa: And see if we can move it. [03.03.2013 18:18:31] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Either build this base in one of the allowed area, or make a request to Kishiro Technologies main branch, please. [03.03.2013 18:18:32] Kishiro~Spa: But, I ask for a temporary status, to check if it is possible. [03.03.2013 18:18:53] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We won't fire at your base, so that you can evacuate the crew and the vital resources inside. [03.03.2013 18:19:00] Kishiro~Spa: Will it be possible to hold this base until such approvements have been made? [03.03.2013 18:19:01] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: We are giving you a chance. Don't fool us. [03.03.2013 18:19:43] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Even if you receive the authorization from the main Kishiro branch, the base is still violating section 8.2 [03.03.2013 18:20:14] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: If you do get the authorization from Kishiro, rebuild this base at least 3k away from any structure. This includes trade lanes. [03.03.2013 18:20:23] Kishiro~Spa: Still, I wish to move the base, without damaging it, that is why I wish to hold a temporary soltuion [03.03.2013 18:20:26] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Perhaps Fuji orbit would be a wise choice? [03.03.2013 18:21:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: I do not think bases can be moved. [03.03.2013 18:21:42] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: Already built ones, that is. [03.03.2013 18:22:40] Kishiro~Spa: // talking to an admin, maybe it is possible, but meh, we've missed that line [03.03.2013 18:23:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // Happens. I'm sorry. West granted the authorization without checked first [03.03.2013 18:23:23] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // so it's a bit our fault too [03.03.2013 18:23:26] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah its kinda of our downer [03.03.2013 18:23:29] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // checking* [03.03.2013 18:23:53] Kishiro~Spa: // if the admin can.. which i hope will.. ill do it correctly i guess [03.03.2013 18:23:57] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i think ideally, that base should be between Izu and Fuji [03.03.2013 18:24:06] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // that would make a sweet spot for a base [03.03.2013 18:24:10] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah but he told us it must be near the base.. [03.03.2013 18:24:14] Kishiro~Spa: // so.. ugh [03.03.2013 18:24:23] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // wait on, i will check the codex again [03.03.2013 18:25:15] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // it must be near it yes. I'd say it's a 3K - 10k radius around Shinagawa [03.03.2013 18:26:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // where i am now would be fine [03.03.2013 18:26:03] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // please check [03.03.2013 18:27:23] Kishiro~Spa: // oh man what a downer [03.03.2013 18:27:32] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //what's up? [03.03.2013 18:28:15] Kishiro~Spa: // im waiting for widow [03.03.2013 18:28:18] Kishiro~Spa: // maybe he can move it [03.03.2013 18:28:39] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // she? [03.03.2013 18:28:47] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i think that's a female, yeah. [03.03.2013 18:28:49] Kishiro~Spa: // s* [03.03.2013 18:34:36] Kishiro~Spa: // sorry if i waste ur time but i really want to see if they can move it, we've worked hard for this meh [03.03.2013 18:34:51] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // np [03.03.2013 18:35:02] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //is widow gone? [03.03.2013 18:35:48] Kishiro~Spa: // still here constultiung [03.03.2013 18:43:42] Kishiro~Spa: // man the hell with this, ima quit this shtty game its all metagaming anyway, and all that time for nothing [03.03.2013 18:43:44] Kishiro~Spa: destroy it [03.03.2013 18:44:00] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // they do'nt want to move it? [03.03.2013 18:44:07] Kishiro~Spa: // they dont repspond [03.03.2013 18:44:14] Kishiro~Spa: // and now i gotta suffer cuz i had bad information [03.03.2013 18:44:22] Kishiro~Spa: // thats textbook bullsht [03.03.2013 18:44:26] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // do you have a skype? [03.03.2013 18:44:32] Kishiro~Spa: // yeah [03.03.2013 18:44:40] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: //give it to me, please ... [03.03.2013 18:44:52] KDS-Kitakami: //mkay [03.03.2013 18:45:48] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // admins are humans too. They may be busy [03.03.2013 18:45:52] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // give it a few hours [03.03.2013 18:46:12] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i will try to contact one of them [03.03.2013 18:52:59] Kishiro~Spa: // well he was looking on my pm for five minutes and now he went to another page, so what now :( [03.03.2013 18:53:13] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // no idea [03.03.2013 18:54:33] Kishiro~Spa: more like 2 days [03.03.2013 18:54:49] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: If you say so. [03.03.2013 18:55:06] Kishiro~Spa: // you think the knf will approve it if i tell them the situation? [03.03.2013 18:55:42] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // i'm sorry but no. Not so close to shinagawa. It must be at least 3k afar from anything. [03.03.2013 18:58:15] Kishiro~Spa: // 5 minutes ill give u a anwser [03.03.2013 18:58:28] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // aight. [03.03.2013 18:58:40] Kishiro~Spa: // anyhow, if its a no, ill take the fuel off from it so u can destroy it easy but f-uck this game [03.03.2013 18:58:57] [KNF]KDS-Asagao: // sorry..

Does it look we were unreasonable about it and just started to lolsiege your base because we are bad people? I even proposed you to reimburse you a part of the expenses....

And then you make a whine thread.
Okay.

To the others people posting here and just saying "Kusari factions are bad mkay", knf has a feedback thread just for this. For you to let us know when we are doing something wrong.

Finally, about Itabashi. That base was constructed by the KSP dudes during the short time they were official. KNF was never consulted about its emplacement, as far as i know, and it would have been stupid to start a siege against a KSP base.
About BDS building it and putting the defense mode to "lolshoot anything red with Hogosha", i already gave my opinion about it in another thread.
And KNF can't do jacktits about Itabashi, alright? The government wouldn't allow it.

So, in a nutshell, there have been wrongs on both sides.
But i'm pretty sure making that kind of thread doesn't solve anything.

First of all, we asked, and YOU said yes. We followed the law of asking and there fore we built it. You cant tell us now when we spent 200+ plus on this base and your make up your mind just now? Why kill base, why not punish the one telling us we can? Instead of blaming us for building, blame your own men fo saying without knowing. Therefore, we ask that our base we there and we make a RP for it for it being that close. And yes we did ask. " Production Facilty " is a Kishiro Base, [KNF] and GMG| are allowed to dock on it.

We are trying to make Kusari more active, and your ruinign everyhting because you dont wnat to see a base there and you like peace and quite in Kusari? Please tell me why, why you tell us now that we need to put it 3k and not when we started? Its funny how you JUST tell us when we built Shield, supp;lyed it well, we even asked GMG| to help us build it, and now you tell us base cant be there and your already shooting it?

West · 03-03-2013, 10:07 PM,

02.03.2013 14:10:58] [KNF]KDS-Hyuga: That base must be atleast 5k away from current and not in path of trade lanes.

You posted it on your own.
answered all your questions, and told to keep distance..
So where did I made mistake? I told you all as it should be, in the end you did wrong.

Zen_Mechanics · 03-03-2013, 10:08 PM,

(03-03-2013, 10:07 PM)West Wrote: 02.03.2013 14:10:58] [KNF]KDS-Hyuga: That base must be atleast 5k away from current and not in path of trade lanes.

You posted it on your own.
answered all your questions, and told to keep distance..
So where did I made mistake? I told you all as it should be, in the end you did wrong.

And i've said WITHIN 5K RADIUS, next to the moon, guess where the base is? next to the moon, far from the lanes.

Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

~~Hone~~ · 03-03-2013, 10:18 PM,

Whilst I dont have a high opinion of KNF since itsibashi, "Oh the governemnt wont allow it" Who exactly? The KNF is the only official lawful faction in kusari, who is RPing the government? Theyr hiding behind something that doesnt exist. Why would the government (who are kishiro not samura) allow the hog base to shoot their allies in the first place?

I do have to say that they did say [KNF]KDS-Hyuga: That base must be atleast 5k away from current and not in path of trade lanes. Which although, again itsibashi is breaking that law, and they do nothing, AND is gramatically nonsensical, at least shows they tried to tell you not to do it. Although again, preventing kishiro from building a kishiro base within 5ks of another kishiro base seems wrong.

Meh personally I just leave kusari, its not worth playing with em no point getting worked up, just play with people who are more fun.

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Daron · 03-03-2013, 10:23 PM,

The base is less than 2k away from the lanes and Shinagawa station.

Ingenious · (This post was last modified: 03-03-2013, 10:28 PM by Ingenious.)

You know what, he is an intelligent, respectful, roleplaying independent who brings activity to your house. If you want to kill off people like that, I'll have no sympathy for you when you lose official status.

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