Lock topic please. I give up,lolwuts win

[Sava]

That fricking base of yours is killing civilian ships.

P.S. Ship deletion should be implemented, obviously. That's the same case as with lib carrier.

[SMGSterlin]

You know, it's really not that hard to press esc before you're through the lane, cruise 10k around the base, and not have a single shot fired at you from the base even if you're hostile.


Srsly.

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[Yaoquizque]

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So to sum it all up, Yao, please think about coming into the government, it could use you.

Alright. Let's give it a try.

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[Ursus]

Here's my problems with it. Hogosha NPCs are coded as unlawful in the game files, and the Hogosha NPCs will commit piracy on the lanes. Someone who RPs as KNF/KSP is expected to shoot down the Hogosha NPCs when they do this, its expected of them. What happens when you shoot an NPC faction, eventually you go red to it. So a KNF/KSP player who RPs his faction perfectly will end up red to Hogosha, and the damn base blow them up if they ever come to visit their capital planet. I know this happens, because one or two of my KNF ships have been shot at by this damn base while flying near NT.

Now, that was a while ago, it was actually the last time I logged into the server for anything, because I wont participate in something so stupid as unlawful base in orbit over lawful capital planet shooting the house military without provocation. I felt the same way when that stupid IDF base was shooting my GRN indies in Tau-31, its just ... words do not exist to adequately describe the level of stupidity, and it happens to people who play the RP perfectly.

That is separate and apart from the OORP horse apples that come out from bases at all. I mean, we have Hogosha player launching KNF battleship to defend Hogosha base that is shooting lawful traders. There are so many things wrong with that I have lost count. KNF ships are red-cell to Hogosha so basically the ID is used as a throwaway. This server is not supposed to be gang warfare, remember? Not supposed to have clans using whatever optimal tech and fighting everybody else who is also using random tech, yet here we are, and its all because of POBs. Good job fellas

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[Tunicle]

I felt the same way when that stupid IDF base was shooting my GRN indies in Tau-31,

Point of accuracy as it always strengthens an argument, it was an EFL base, Helmand Outpost, http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...ht=helmand.

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[Hone]

Sure but WHAT GOVERNMENT? As stated a freaking million times. No one is getting any answers from this so called "GOVERNMENT" that does not exist.

Actually there is a Kusari prime minister. Have any of you that are complaining even tried to contact him INRP or were you just planning to keep whining about how's he's not responding to the communication you've never sent him?

Yes actually, of course I tried RP, its not worth getting angry over OORP after all.

Heres my message to kusarian lawfuls in charge of bases: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=92536

To which we got the common excuse that the knf cant do anything as they are waiting for this government that doesnt do anything, the hogosha interupting to threaten, and then this ridiculous post from Bakamono;

Mister Hone, our patience with you has worn thin. You have abused the privilege of this channel, your actions unbefitting of a professional.

The hogosha did not attack you – a base defended itself. You have experienced this before – we do everyday at Roppongi – you know this is nothing new.

Ship action is an entirely different matter – and as I have said to the government and hogosha – if the situation escalates and strike wings begin attacks – then we will intervene.

We have seen no effort from your side –at all– to contact Hogosha for a solution. It is baffling that you expect House Navy to solve your quasi-problem: find a policeman or hogosha rep. Navy are concerned with actual, violent criminals.

You are not official guild – who have been consulted on the matter and stated it is not an issue. Why it is such a problem for you, and not them is a sign that you are a troublemaker.

You are the only party 'discouraging' trade here, your refusal to take responsibility is the first obstacle to a solution.

Now, I have genuinely important matters to attend to. I have in my hands a report for twenty two pilots suffering injuries ranging from bone breaks, limb loss, third degree burns, blindness, etcetera. Some will not see the next dawn.

Consider this before taking your next steps.

Acting Bakuryō-chō taru Kaishō Nagata,
Kusari Naval Forces.

Stating that the base defended itself - Yeah from an unarmed whale! That it was fine for hogosha to attack lawful traders, as company differences were not a naval concern, and that as i'm an indie, my concerns dont matter.

And so people know Im not being biased against one side, the KNF were actually the BETTER of the two responses, as I sent 4 messages to the GMG; http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=92539
and they didnt even reply.


I couldnt be bothered with the lack of RP, so I just went elsewhere.

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[Moochapotamus]

You know, it's really not that hard to press esc before you're through the lane, cruise 10k around the base, and not have a single shot fired at you from the base even if you're hostile.


Srsly.

And how hard is it to rep the base as a friendly to lawfuls n Kusari?

And how hard is it to just let it die?`

May I ask why you built it there with that rep in the first place?

[Sava]

You know, it's really not that hard to press esc before you're through the lane, cruise 10k around the base, and not have a single shot fired at you from the base even if you're hostile.


Srsly.

What if i dock/undock from New Tokyo?

[Trail]

Here's my problems with it. Hogosha NPCs are coded as unlawful in the game files, and the Hogosha NPCs will commit piracy on the lanes. Someone who RPs as KNF/KSP is expected to shoot down the Hogosha NPCs when they do this, its expected of them. What happens when you shoot an NPC faction, eventually you go red to it. So a KNF/KSP player who RPs his faction perfectly will end up red to Hogosha, and the damn base blow them up if they ever come to visit their capital planet. I know this happens, because one or two of my KNF ships have been shot at by this damn base while flying near NT.

Now, that was a while ago, it was actually the last time I logged into the server for anything, because I wont participate in something so stupid as unlawful base in orbit over lawful capital planet shooting the house military without provocation. I felt the same way when that stupid IDF base was shooting my GRN indies in Tau-31, its just ... words do not exist to adequately describe the level of stupidity, and it happens to people who play the RP perfectly.

That is separate and apart from the OORP horse apples that come out from bases at all. I mean, we have Hogosha player launching KNF battleship to defend Hogosha base that is shooting lawful traders. There are so many things wrong with that I have lost count. KNF ships are red-cell to Hogosha so basically the ID is used as a throwaway. This server is not supposed to be gang warfare, remember? Not supposed to have clans using whatever optimal tech and fighting everybody else who is also using random tech, yet here we are, and its all because of POBs. Good job fellas

im not just a 'hogosha player' I am in every faction in Kusari (almost) and it was reported to me on several channels (not the hogosha one however) so I undocked a Kusari Battleship since it was clear I was not going to get any help from anyone else. otherwise I mightve just undocked a KSP bomber or KPT cruiser. Regardless however it is not like I would be able to do anything about him without technically breaking a line in the ID.

You know, it's really not that hard to press esc before you're through the lane, cruise 10k around the base, and not have a single shot fired at you from the base even if you're hostile.


Srsly.

What if i dock/undock from New Tokyo?

kusari restart means you wont get shot if you undock from NT. If you are hostile to the base and decide to dock on the planet anyway then it is your own fault should you not be able to leave.

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[Sava]

Err what? According to you i can't dock to the capitol planet because some minor faction has managed to build platforms, do i get it wrong?

im not just a 'hogosha player' I am in every faction in Kusari (almost) and it was reported to me on several channels (not the hogosha one however) so I undocked a Kusari Battleship since it was clear I was not going to get any help from anyone else. otherwise I mightve just undocked a KSP bomber or KPT cruiser.

So there's not much common sense behind "kusari officials" doing nothing, it's just meta to please your will, ha?
And why do you claim that you have authority over other KSP/KNF ID'd player?
You have shot him!
Why shouldn't we insist on deletion of your ship? We've got precedent