Cloaks R.I.P.

[dirmaster0]

I don't mind the new change of how cloaks operate now, it takes real skill to navigate an asteroid field in cloak anyway.. My problem is the change of how the Jump Drive MK4 operates---No more group jumping?! I just purchased one for my faction -_-;

[Ingenious]

Cloaks must work as intended. That's all.

They were intended to be at least marginally useful, so they are not working as intended at the moment.

[Curios]

That just means that your implemention of cloak use was limited to escaping from a battle.

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[Warhalk]

Yup that was just a stupid decision, but meh. In this situation I'd say It'd be better to delete them from the game. Congrats to the crying part of the community, they made it through -again-.

No i say Congrats on all the abusers that made them cry, by constantly using cloaks to hit tranports, and then cloaking to avoid military ships that show up. If that is only reason you find a cloak usefull, then you are using them wrong. They have many other uses ingame that are still availible.

[Jack_Henderson]

Perfect change. A cloak is no "I get in, blast my target cheaply and get away!" device.

People who claim they have killed someone who cloaked met a noob or fought a single cloaking BS with overwhelming force... or were extremely lucky. Every experienced cloaker got away almost 100 % and I can even prove that in numbers when it comes to the very annoying cloaking Ptrans.

Good call.

Now cloaking is a bonus for you once. It allows you to initiate contact or not. That -is- very strong, especially as you uncloak with full energy.

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[Knjaz]

Jack, cloaked PTranses are a whole different case - the ship got 3 times more MOX than battleship with, "somewhat", incomparable size.

My first encounter with cloaked Rans in T37, while I was on thannie, ended up in a dead rans.
The guy cloaked with 30% hull left, tried to run past me several times, etc. Died before cloak run out, in approx 1-2 mins since he cloaked. Cloaking and escaping doesn't really work when opposing force know what they're doing.

I've been on both ends of this - killing the escapee and trying to escape. It IS hard to escape. Even on cruiser-class vessels.

Edit: Here is a good example of LUCK. I've cloaked on RMBS while having ~ 3 boxes of hull left, versus a single bomber with a SNAC

Know how I escaped? He run out of CDs. He may have not, and if he wouldn't waste them like he did - I'd be a goner.



LNS arrived later and didn't even try to participate in all of that, which was kinda weird. They'd definitely finish me off.

Edit: It seems some of the things were changed, which makes cloaks useful for ambush once again. Good stuff.

[AeternusDoleo]

The main problem with cloaks was that they have no countermeasure, which led to cloaking becoming a "no blue for you" 100% safety, especially for transports and large ships. This was never intended to be the case. EVERY option in Discovery, including cloaks and jumpdrives, is supposed to have a countermeasure. For the cloaks, this was disruptor effect.

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[Duvelske]

1 plus for the nomads cloaks are not usefull at al even If They in the first place could not cloak whole They inRP would be the first and only. After research humans would do it with nowadays cloaks. But still when hitting a rock. Seen the lolicrons lately? Exactly.

Also jinx with the QQ On forums seems to work better then actual background lately. Nomads gank order now. Order and bhg need a restart. Dont know why because you See On the lolicrons ships from whole sirius. Even the gallic valour. I Made a post about red hessians. Ok i might had written it differently but They are overpowered. Id and shipwise. Its a o7 terrorist id and all Indy and even non Indy use it like That. This in combination with cloaks. Funny is That instantly Every RH say Its not true and start QQ only a few who didnt. So If i ask people to post here That it has to be reverted it Will. Even If Its outbalanced

// i stop these useless discussions As the QQ wins it from common sense. Too many On Skype told me That already. I just rp and for the QQ groups. GG. If you want to talk with me about something else then rp pm me.

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[Jinx]

duvaleske

like i wrote many times

if you have any concerns about game mechanics or other stuff that devs are supposed or able to fix or maybe able to fix - make a serious thread about it - a poll if you can. - make sure that it does not become a troll thread

as AD and others have also commented..:

threads that are insutling, accusatory, trollish, consist of poor humor or are outright juvenile are usually being ignored - or worse - they make it less likely that we take it into account.

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although its a bit off topic

also said many times.. you cannot cherry pick from the lore and leave other stuff out

so you justify nomads to be super cloakers cause its the lore? - fine - do you agree with them having poor weapons and no shields, cause its also the lore?

vanilla is surprisingly well balanced if we do not take the progressive difficulty into account too much ( meaning liberty being a pushover while rheinland is quite tough )

also

people usually complain about QQ only if it is not THEIR wish they get - they totally suppport "serious arguments" ( which are basicly the very same thing - it is just a matter of perception ) when its about what they want.
even the notion that someone just QQs is insulting for people who consider their requests to be of serious nature.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

Jumdrives are also useless unless you want to jump alone ; market gets a big blow because of that as well.
Someone has to do some real explaining.

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