no, nomad guns / blasters are not sold at any base - nomad capital ship turrets are sold however; but those don t have stats that are better than other primary turrets ( slightly more efficient, but nothing great )
' Wrote:Nomad guns are detrimental to RP. Remember that this is NOT a PvP server. This is an RP server, and the equipment that you mount on your characters is extremely important to your character's RP.
lol You're kidding right? RP server yes, but the PVP is still there. I'd go as far as to say PVP drives most of the RP on the server, without it people would hardly have a reason to interact. Unless you're into fancy space chatrooms, then there would be plenty of potential.
I'd also be willing to bet every single bomber on the RP server has load-outs that include at least one supernova type weapon, or are on their way to it. Sure for some it may be within RP but there's a very obvious reason people would want such powerful weapons on their ship. Nobody wants to be outclassed, there's a very real need to have the best equipment possible. Nomad guns are being sold at very low rates, and people are buying them because of that need to have the best equipment they can get. In an environment where your enemy could range from a measly light fighter to a daunting battleship, this behavior is natural. For those who choose not to do so then that's their choice, and they should accept that others may not be as trusting in their opponents.
Personally I'm waiting for something to change with the merc bans in Liberty so I can visit an armorer. Since I refuse to fly a sluggish bomber everywhere I go, despite their extreme damage potential, I've decided to stick to my VHFs. So in order for me to be a mercenary worth his pay, I have to invest in the best weapons I can get in order to deal with whatever threat presents itself. If that means buying Nomad guns even if it's only temporary then I won't think twice about my purchase, I've owned them before.
I understand where you're coming from though, it would be nice if people could just drop the powertrip and accept that there's a greater level of gameplay in the RP aspect of things. But as long as there's pirates roaming about ready to vaporize my ship in a single shot, I'm gonna make sure I can at least stand a chance at defending myself properly.
I agree they are OORP.
But so is using Krakens with Blood Dragon ID.
So is using Blood Dragon HF with Outcast ID.
So is using Krakens on Werewolf ship.
Etc etc.
All these things are OORP.
What I'm trying to say..
People will gladly ditch their own guns (in my case, Daito for Krakens) for a better one.
And excuse : "They are our allies" is not a valid excuse.
Because they have their own guns, their own fighters, their own capital ships, which are perfectly fine.
If RM starts using Sunfrenzies, because KNF are their allies, and their weapons suck, it's OORP.
Why? Because RM has the best House fighter.
Weak weapons + the best fighter = average.
Now, this was just an example, not provoking RM people or anything.
What I'm trying to say is.. Nomads aren't the only problem.
And you maybe got my post wrong, maybe you didn't.
But I'm all for nerfing nomads and improving certain guns, so people start using those.
But in the same time, i would like to see people flying their own ships and using their own weapons.
Not allied ships, or allied weapons.
Rogues don't have a Destroyer? Too bad, fly a gunboat.
Don't just get an Outcast Destroyer. If they have none, they shouldn't fly it.
Simple.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
Reise, no offense, you make an excellent point. But in my opinion, the way you are putting it is only going to add to the demise of RP on the server.
PvP is essential to RP. But RP comes first, even if it does mean mounting your factions guns, and losing an edge. I find it more RP to lose the edge and die rather than survive, but live with the fact that I just killed someone with a completely OORP loadout. This is what separates Discovery from Void and other PvP servers.
For instance, if I were to RP as a not-so-well funded terrorist, the last things that I would be mounting are Codenames and Nomad guns. Probably, the only guns that I would use are the standard issue guns that I get from my boss. My Serpentis char is probably going to mount only Debbies and Widows, since those are the only ones available to him. Sure, I can mount a few codies and Nomad guns, but do you think a Xeno would do that? He hates outsiders, and would hate Aliens even more.
@ Chopper: Now, there is something where I do disagree with you. You can't be that absolute with the alliance thing, since alliance dynamics do occur on the server. For instance, prior to AoM's introduction of the Hessian specific line of fighters, the hessians had access to the blueprints of Sabres(It was sold on Vogtland).
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Yes, but, Hessians do use BW ship line in Vanilla.
So I have nothing against people using them even now.
Same for Hackers.
But, an Outcast flying a Blood Dragon is obviously looking for a more agile, smaller and better ship then Sabre.
Same if you are using Krakens instead of Daitos.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
For instance, if I were to RP as a not-so-well funded terrorist, the last things that I would be mounting are Codenames and Nomad guns. Probably, the only guns that I would use are the standard issue guns that I get from my boss. My Serpentis char is probably going to mount only Debbies and Widows, since those are the only ones available to him. Sure, I can mount a few codies and Nomad guns, but do you think a Xeno would do that? He hates outsiders, and would hate Aliens even more.
Both of these weapons are found. why not? I dont have either on my character but the point is if you can
get a better wagon you do, they dont build alot of trucks in Africa but they have em. I may be mis judgeing
you and sorry if I am, but it seems your arguement is emotional rather than logical. I'm not trying to flame
in any way and if I make you angry PM me and I appologize now. Just stateing this to keep discussion on
rules, on target. My goal is to have you and community either see there are many reasons out there for
people doing things and not all will be obvious to us in space, or to make me realize how these rule enrich
the gameing experience with out turning into cops robbers, and victims.
With all due respect to everyone, but it is NOT hard to make requirement for wearing all those weapons and flying all those ships so there wouldn't be any OORP actions.
' Wrote:With all due respect to everyone, but it is NOT hard to make requirement for wearing all those weapons and flying all those ships so there wouldn't be any OORP actions.
Can you clarify please I dont know what your getting at, and it might be helpful. If you have time will you