The new Xbox Console: Xbox One... okay....

[Bauer]

I must be the only person in the world who's probably gonna buy one. I am gonna wait until they release more details to make my final decision though.
None of these features have put me off it like they've put off other people. I rarely buy used games as I can usually get new ones for cheap if not cheaper on a site in NZ. My 360 is always plugged in and can be online whenever it wants to be. The kinect thing would probably be annoying but I can live with it. I have a 360 so backwards compatibility problem is solved.
That's my view anyway.

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[10:10:28 AM] Josh (Dejavu): Bauer is legendary to the LPI, I joined because I wanted to be that epic.

[Fletcher]

All that money is going to Microsoft from the used games deal. If they change their minds and start plugging it to the developers, it could be a good thing, but people are still going to be pissed in general.

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"Oh chuffing blimey, another day, another person being whiney!"
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[Agmen of Eladesor]

All that money is going to Microsoft from the used games deal. If they change their minds and start plugging it to the developers, it could be a good thing, but people are still going to be pissed in general.

And being annoyed is going to do what?

Seriously - if they're that ticked off about it, how about they get together with a group of their own uber-genius friends and start up their own computer software company that later diversifies into hardware and other things, and become rich on their own while doing so.

If not - then how about just get over it. Life isn't fair, and while complaining about how someone else does something you disapprove of that you actually have very little effect upon may make you feel better, all it really does is make the world in general a little bit sadder. If you CAN affect someone or something for a positive change, then feel free to do so - then you're not just sitting in a corner and complaining, you're actually DOING something.

In other words, I have no sympathy for people whining simply because they can - if you want to stop Microsoft from getting money from this deal, don't whine on these forums. Get off your dead ass and actually attempt to accomplish something about it. You may not succeed in what you're doing - and that's fine, failure IS always an option - but at least you actually tried. And by that I mean more than making another post on another forum - that's not trying, that's just pathetic.

Note this also works in real life - think about it. If Bill Gates or Steve Jobs or Michael Dell had just decided - meh, I'll just whine about how things are but not actually try to do anything about it, think about where we'd be now. (I simply picked 3 people at random that have accomplished things that aren't mediocrity at it's finest, there's many others, of course.)

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Anaximander]

I can't re-sell my Steam, Origin or uPlay games either. The games industry as a whole has moved towards games-as-service rather than games-as-products; it's the future even though it sucks for the consumer. It's the same on the Windows games market. Let's hope Germany kicks up a fuss, they are good at that and beat both Google and Microsoft into submission.

Does anyone know if this used games programme on the new Xbox will benefit the devs and publishers as well, or do MS take all the profit?

[Redon]

All that money is going to Microsoft from the used games deal. If they change their minds and start plugging it to the developers, it could be a good thing, but people are still going to be pissed in general.

And being annoyed is going to do what?

Seriously - if they're that ticked off about it, how about they get together with a group of their own uber-genius friends and start up their own computer software company that later diversifies into hardware and other things, and become rich on their own while doing so.

If not - then how about just get over it. Life isn't fair, and while complaining about how someone else does something you disapprove of that you actually have very little effect upon may make you feel better, all it really does is make the world in general a little bit sadder. If you CAN affect someone or something for a positive change, then feel free to do so - then you're not just sitting in a corner and complaining, you're actually DOING something.

In other words, I have no sympathy for people whining simply because they can - if you want to stop Microsoft from getting money from this deal, don't whine on these forums. Get off your dead ass and actually attempt to accomplish something about it. You may not succeed in what you're doing - and that's fine, failure IS always an option - but at least you actually tried. And by that I mean more than making another post on another forum - that's not trying, that's just pathetic.

Note this also works in real life - think about it. If Bill Gates or Steve Jobs or Michael Dell had just decided - meh, I'll just whine about how things are but not actually try to do anything about it, think about where we'd be now. (I simply picked 3 people at random that have accomplished things that aren't mediocrity at it's finest, there's many others, of course.)

I disagree. It may not take as much effort or achieve as much as getting up and doing things yourself, but complaining about something you think is wrong will still get you further than just sucking it up and being quiet about it.

If you consider how much companies invest just trying to maintain a good public image, alienating a big audience of gamers is going to do more than you're willing to give it credit for. I'd argue that it is exactly in such a big business that a shift in the opinion of the public is far more likely to have an effect than a single person trying to start up their own software company to 'do it better'. After buying a console, perhaps I want to enjoy games the way I used to without having to dedicate years of my life to a business endeavor just to prove a point.

All consumers are the ones paying for the service and filling Microsoft's wallets in the end, so they should at least be able to complain about things that annoy them without being called whiners with entitlement issues for it.

[Beauenheim]

Microsoft is only doing this so they don't have to pay as much taxes.

Same thing with Windows.

98 Bad, 98 SE Good, 2000/Me Bad, XP Good, Vista Bad, 7 Good, 8 Bad.
Sales wise. Microsoft is forcing themselves to get somewhat bad sales for a few years so they can keep their money, they'll get back on the right track soon.

That or the people at Microsoft have turned dumb and stinky.

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