Discovery 4.87 Balance Discussion

[Duvelske]

hmm wouldnt it be logical it would have some more guns then too? if i recall correctly it has 3 guns and a torp/cd slot. and if i remember correctly all other MR LF's have more guns then that.. but correct me if i am wrong.

for example:
http://discoverygc.com/wiki/Eros

also noms don't have debs. or any guns with huge shield dmg. can something be added for this too? (pvp balance wise )

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[Ursus]

Without more specifics I cant really comment on any change in particular, but I would like to say that the overall arc looks quite promising. Thanks for listening to all the discussions.

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[Haste]

hmm wouldnt it be logical it would have some more guns then too? if i recall correctly it has 3 guns and a torp/cd slot. and if i remember correctly all other MR LF's have more guns then that.. but correct me if i am wrong.

for example:
http://discoverygc.com/wiki/Eros

also noms don't have debs. or any guns with huge shield dmg. can something be added for this too? (pvp balance wise )

The three class tens kind of make up for this, although the lack of debs is problematic.

Adding to that the Voidrunner's hitbox seems to be fairly large for an LF, I figured its current stats were quite well-balanced.

Try putting it up against a Liberator. Not going to end well.

[aerelm]

Labraid Voidrunner

Could it have a 400 m/s cruise speed as well, then? The same as other MR LFs >.>

That's already done. Forgot to mention it.

As for the Nomad debs, it's already being worked on, but it won't make it to the initial release. I'm still playing around with a few ideas, and If none of them work, Noms will just get a deb-like gun in one of the updates.

P.S: Liberator is broken. Don't use it for balance comparisons.

[AeternusDoleo]

What's broken about it? If there's balance breakage, the time to fix it is now.

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[aerelm]

The only way to fix it right now would be giving it Arrow-like stats, but we're gonna try an alternative in one of the updates instead.

[JayDee Kasane]

Fighter Balance:

Insurgent, Outcast Very Heavy Fighter, now has a set of stats similar to the Templar.
4 Class 9 guns, 2 Class 8 guns, 1 CD/Torp slot. Less hitpoints due to the smaller profile.

Next on the list: Fighters

What? Insurgent? Outcast?

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[Aphil]

While I'm happy that the Partisan is receiving a Mini-Razor, I still have mixed feelings about the Insurgent but there's no point speculating over it when I don't know any specifics.

Hopefully the Insurgent will be a capable ship instead of the death trap it is now.

You mentioned before that the Kalashnikovs would be rebalanced according to the ships. I can only assume that means that our terrible energy efficiency problems will be resolved. Especially considering that the Insurgent, if I'm interpreting this right will have the same core as the Templar.

Note: I edited my post after doing some thinking.

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[Jack_Henderson]

I am curious how the Devs want to make OC use their VHF instead of the 7 gun Sabre that is dealing damage like a boss while being hard to hit in the normal group fight situation (when shot from behind). If their new VHF Rapier is like the Odin, and the IMG one has the same stats, but biggest model and "adjusted flight characteristics for the big model", I fear that my faction will end with a big, even slower ship... fighting same stat OC Rapier and op Sabres.

We both know that the fattie always dies, Bots, Bats, Core... they are only secondary. Size is what matters.

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[aerelm]

Outcast guns are adjusted for a 6-gunner 12k core, which means the 7-gunner 11k Sabre will have a hard time maintaining core especially in group fights.

Also an error in premise - You're claiming Odin is subpar compared to Sabre.

Additionally, we're considering swapping Eagle and Sabre powercores.