Aeternus, i am scouting all systems and mapping , no full data i have , but would point you . Are there some routes where smuggler can tie their travel . For instance if i take cardamine from alpha and get to manhatn, in Liberty there is nothing to buy contrabanded or illegaly produced. Best is software from kepler, but that do go well juct in southern Sirius. IF You havent , is it possible to make one new smuggled commodity per house which can be bought on junker bases ? For instance Trafalgar produces something genulnely Bretonian origin (not ressel stuff from edge worlds only) and considered contraband.
Consider paralell with OSC cargo. IT is specific - human cargo and luxuries (which exclude many other stuff) , but wherever route you go exit route point is in same starting point for new route. Can you project some smuggler web, that smuggler can smuggle all the time when they play and not lose time to go for more contraband back to edge worlds emty.
All contraband routes most profitable ends in Liberty in center. Make for instance at least counterfiet software desirable and well payed in whole directions of universe (if it is not done already , ups me) .
Why freeport15 sells basic alloys and livadia does not ( doesn't make sense ) - and why a full load costs 16mill? ( 3,400 per unit ) - theres no basic alloys in the omicrons apart from mu - whats that all about, 800 is reasonable, but 3,400?
Its the omicrons yeah , not africa ( with all due respect
Re:edit - also I can trade cheap ones from crete ( unless they have changed it ) and do easy money - infact quicker then ores.
should be lowered to 800 atleast.
Edit 2 : Crete also sells alloys, 2,800 per unit - so no basic alloy support in the omicrons.
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Basic Alloys, IF (!) they are still a base repair commodity
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IF (!) Basic Alloys remain the 1st repair commodity on any base, please revert prices to what they were in .86. It is not fair to favour one spot that way. In .86 nearly every inhabited planet sold them, so they were available at acceptable prices pretty much everywhere.
Daily BA shipments would cost about ~ 30-40 million, which is too much even for me who wants PoBs to be money sinks.
(09-20-2013, 09:20 AM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: ==============
Basic Alloys, IF (!) they are still a base repair commodity
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IF (!) Basic Alloys remain the 1st repair commodity on any base, please revert prices to what they were in .86. It is not fair to favour one spot that way. In .86 nearly every inhabited planet sold them, so they were available at acceptable prices pretty much everywhere.
Daily BA shipments would cost about ~ 30-40 million, which is too much even for me who wants PoBs to be money sinks.
I agree in general, even if it's not a repair item. Simple things like Consumer Goods are already produced in House all over Sirius. Basic Alloy, Food Rations, and other "basic" items shouldn't be hamstrung to single locations.
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Tea
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On a side note, it appears that Tea produced on Curacao is not bought on the Luxury Liners in Newcastle, Sigma-19, or that Gallic one. I'm not sure if it's bought at the Hogosha's Casino ship, but all of these should be interested in importing a luxury item like Tea for their guests.
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Optical Chips
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Formerly present for sale at Planet Los Angeles and listed as a reason on said planet's infocard for Ageira being present there, they're not there anymore. Re-add and adjust trade accordingly please.
Basic alloys in southern omicrons are 14-16m per load ( thats to say, 2800per unit - 3400 per unit ) - we cannot afford to spend 40mill for 1.5 days of activity on our pobs ( and theres about nine pobs who uses alloys in 74-theta-gamma ) you were kind enough to put basic alloys on FP15 - but it is unreasonable price. Its the omicrons sure, no one expects things to be that cheap, but I was fine paying 600 per unit. Please lower it drastically or put other goods as repair functions.
Honestly i think the ba prices are good. PoB are a team effort for commodities its not meant to be cheap because 1 player is suppying his/her precious base. Also you refer to the omicrons, its dangerous and goods are rather hard to aquire there. So high prices i think its inRP normal.
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BASIC ALLOY <-> POB
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Rumors spread over the forum said player owned bases will need diffrent (other) stuff to consume. it would be nice - to get some more details. ("Bases are turned on for testing") but nothing has changed yet - means i cannot test.
i tested Alberta, O-11, Cambridge, Munic, Tau-23, Sigma-19, O-7, and many more. Field positions are much better now. Means a chance for pirates and miners to get what they want
Is it possible to turn on mining bonus for a few days - to see the diffrence?
(09-20-2013, 11:17 AM)Duvelske Wrote: Honestly i think the ba prices are good. PoB are a team effort for commodities its not meant to be cheap because 1 player is suppying his/her precious base. Also you refer to the omicrons, its dangerous and goods are rather hard to aquire there. So high prices i think its inRP normal.
Those alloyes name is called basic. IF something is basic it is logically presumed that it is rather easy acessible and easily produced. Atm onlz place which produce alloys is Eerie. Make BA as earlier. Or other possibility make in all bases BA cost the same.
And second Duvelske point about teamwork. IT is true that teamwork is desirable, but i think that "teamwork" is better to be implied in base RPing instead of base upkeeping as this last thing indeed IS teamwork , but this teamwork is inclined to group itself.
There is teamwork which occurs when base become point of interest of others and different groups take part in its existence for reasons not bind to base internal organization.
Saltese is one of the best enterprises of that kind. So BA will not help real RP, neither is important. I think rather that combo -- high prices of BA + buffed commodities - nerfed ores, NeGaTiVeLy affects bases who wanna build RP through trade change and diplomatic relations prior to self grinding money farms .
Dont let us waste credits on npc generated BA , i would rather cheap ba , to spare more credits and offer better prices to (motivate more) those who would visit base and trade. With cheap supplies we can make ecconomicaly viable to establish trading POB routes with common stuff , to promote RP related basic commodity change.
There's a rumor on Aurillac Base in the Auvergne system that Counterfeit Software passes through there to somewhere else(Planet Marne?), and that while the majority of it carries on, some of it stays there. I checked the base info and market and there appears to be no buying or selling of this item on that base at all.
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