Nomads.

[belarusich]

Can Freelancers and Zoners attack them NOT in self-defense?

Can they offense them first?

[aerelm]

Nope.

[Vrabcek]

They shouldn't, but nobody will really sanction them for it...

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[belarusich]

Nope.

So you must wait before the biggest enemy of humanity drains your shields below 50%? Quite stupidly...

[Duvelske]

technically zoners can their id states:
- Can attack any ship in self-defense, to protect another zoner ship, or in defense of zoner bases

diplomacy wise Nomads are hostile with plain zoners. So in that way you can shoot em. I dislike it too as well i play nomad also a lot and freelancers and many others just don't keep to these rules. But id/diplomacy wise i would say yes. As a Zoner may not ally with anyone he must secure his path and make sure of his/her survival.

and yes this is an RP server.. so diplomacy etc does apply doesn't it?

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[Vrabcek]

So you must wait before the biggest enemy of humanity drains your shields below 50%? Quite stupidly...

Or the Zoners could simply run away from the biggest enemy of humanity instead of shooting their way through it.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

self defense can be easily portrayed, but because language is what we want it to be, * when we want it to be, I would simply state in system chat to keep a distance of 10k from the carrier/destroyer/dread - or he will be considered hostile and be shot. It's a dick move, but its not sanctionable ( its a low move too and I would never do that, because I have better ways to draw fire on me zoner chars ) but I guess that'll do to the ones who dont like too much talking.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

technically zoners can their id states:
- Can attack any ship in self-defense, to protect another zoner ship, or in defense of zoner bases

diplomacy wise Nomads are hostile with plain zoners. So in that way you can shoot em. I dislike it too as well i play nomad also a lot and freelancers and many others just don't keep to these rules. But id/diplomacy wise i would say yes. As a Zoner may not ally with anyone he must secure his path and make sure of his/her survival.

and yes this is an RP server.. so diplomacy etc does apply doesn't it?

WRONG!

There STILL has to be role-play done before ANY attack on here, period.

Perhaps the OP didn't intend it to sound that way, but basically his question ended up asking - Hey, if I suddenly see a Nomad on my screen, can I just shoot him? And that's why aerelm said nope.

Remember, too, that even the Nomads have to have done SOME RP before they attack you - even if it's the simple 'Softskins inside metal skins must perish' or however we want to phrase "Destroy All Humans" ...

But yeah, basically if you're a Zoner and you see a Nomad flying by - if the Nomad simply flies on by, you can't preemptively attack in self defense. Just watch out your screen and think to yourself - "Wow, I just survived seeing something that most people don't" ...

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Zen_Mechanics]

Agmen, with what they have done in the beta - I would focus on the NPC nomads. Nomads are dead ( I don't know why ) - it lasted two weeks after the open id went public and now only ones and twosies fly em. It is much more "dangerious" to be in such a place in the first place, without having 14 npc gunboats and 8 assasins on you.
If the question was " if i see a nomad can I shoot him " then clearly nah, but if a nomad keeps a 4 clicks distance you know he wont play crickets, and even there its a big "no" to simply engage him. But instincts tell you he will do something sooner or later and one of the things that I hate about zoners ( yes believe it or not ) - it has many loop holes ( now it seems even greater since they re-edited the ID and mentioned those situations ) *because zoners can't engage others, because people know this, because people like it - they feel free to exploit this "loophole" - and I say this because it is true to people who dont know how to create a solid rp to justifiy actions they want to perform.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Duvelske]

WRONG!

There STILL has to be role-play done before ANY attack on here, period.

Well yes he can SHOOT, RP wise its a danger for the one being attacked. As a fear for the unknown and knowing how they did devour the Order in the past.
(strike one)

Remember, too, that even the Nomads have to have done SOME RP before they attack you - even if it's the simple 'Softskins inside metal skins must perish' or however we want to phrase "Destroy All Humans" ...

wrong again. They can treat ANYTHING as combat targets. Same with indy nomads. can shoot all without 1 word. Difference with indy nomads and k'hara is that K'hara use RP over pew. and get chased with fools not doing that. Ironic isn't it? and yeah we both know it as we are both in the same blue faction.

Strike two
damn you are almost out already..

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