1.) Planning (mostly cap) raids as a main source of activity for Houses sucks and is a sign the server turns more and more into simple pvpfest.
2.) Instead of trying to focus game mechanics on giving all the activity navy factions think about others, for example House corps. Some changes were already made, but more is needed.
3.) Rheinland won't be dead if people stop whining about it being dead, looking for weird or retarded ways to get activity, and just start playing in Rheinland again, especially as local lawful and unlawful factions.
4.) Related to the previous point - play nice with others, don't gank pls. 5.) Summer you bastard you nerfed my commie Nyx, I used to pvpwhore in Rheinland in it.
(10-07-2013, 06:09 PM)SMI-Great.Fox Wrote: To Black Widow.
Your ideas only focus upon nothing more than to Pew.
So to help fix your statements with what you have failed to see, allow me to assist you.
1. RM Fighting the GMG.
Not going to happen due to a multitude of reasons. First off. GMG and Rheinland made good and have a multitude of contracts for fuel which helps to bring in money. Second. It's sheer lunacy. Attacking the GMG alone cuts off their fuel supplies and would be considered Economic suicide.
2. Rheinland working with the Exiles.
Not going to happen. Too much already has been done in working with the new Kusari Republic's Government. With Rheinland building new Kusari vessels to help generate income and put people to work, they wont throw that all away for nothing. Rheinland's shipbuilding companies, Dauman, Republican and ALG would be in an uproar over this for loosing their contracts to sheer stupidity.
3. Gallia is a trickle in the bucket.
Wrong again my friend. New money is good money. And despite the long trips, the finicial gain is quite worth it in the long run than it is in immediate terms. Gallia very recently just opened up its trade routes to Rheinland Corps, so such will be little at first. But money will be made in the long run.
4. Rheinland is dead without IC.
Rheinland hasn't collapsed since IC was removed for getting their hands too close to the flame. IC made the choice to work with the Hessians and now they're paying for it. Which is why Gallia's markets are open to assist from collapse.
Working alongside the Kusari Exiles is near pointless when so much is at stake with almost everything to loose.
(10-07-2013, 06:14 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote:
Quote:People get off on Inter-House conflict it's what they want to be popular you must give the people what they want not what fits in with regular boring lore that is disco now. Good Lore does not leave 2 Houses doing nothing.
Good lore also doesn't make a House do something irrational/suicidal just for the sake of in-game pews. That's what you can use pirate factions for, especially pirate factions that have fairly unique and extensive ship lines, like the Black Dragons and Red Hessians do. It seems like a major waste to give such attention to something apparently nobody really wants, even for the sake of keeping things close to Vanilla.
Gallia already as a "civil war" with the Council, but that hasn't necessarily boosted either faction significantly. We don't even HAVE an official GRN faction anymore, anyways, and they're fighting practically everybody!
Well the storyline could quite easily be adjusted to make a war between Rheinland and Kusari plausible, the facts given for why it would not be worth it are weak. Wow Daumann, will loose a few ship building contracts from this conflict but look at what they would gain if they won. More Shipping Contracts plus Gas Fields, thats even more incentive to go to war.
Gallia I dont believe is an avenue to a quick economic turn-around not enough to replace IC, Sigma's Gas fields are.
In relation to GMG vs Rheinland not being feasible I also do not believe that to be true, GMG are just a corporation just because they have a monopoly on the H-Fuel Market does not mean they are something to be reckoned with. They have no real military and one on one they have nothing to match Rheinland's Armada of Ships, for every GMG Bomber Rheinland has 10. Thus Rheinland would sweep GMG aside quite easily.
There is a massive Gas Cloud in Munich, Rheinland could discover new H-Fuel deposits there. GMG Fuel Crisis solved alternative fuel found, now we can go to war!
So you see the RP Idea I outlined is quite feasible, as Rheinland needs to rebuild and quickly they dont know how long the conflict with Gallia will last. For all they know, it will be over tomorrow and Liberty will be back knocking on their door. So its important to rebuild as fast as possible.
You see you have to look at things from a RP and Pew perspective, 100% RP is not fun neither is 100% Pew so there needs to be a fine balance with the two, a RP Universe in which two houses (Kusari and Rheinland) are doing nothing is boring and as such will do nothing to boost interest or activity because the only war right now is against the GRN.
Not everybody likes flying Bret, Lib or Gallic Ships some like Kusari Stuff some like Rheinland to be able not to use their houses capital ships in a meaningful RP Way i.e. some kind of conflict means people will loose interest that is why Kusari and Rheinland are empty now.
If disco wants to remain King you must give your fellow subjects (players) what they want, War on all fronts guarantees that possibility to say otherwise means you have your head in the sand.
People like building up their cash base on disco they enjoy trading and being able to buy their favourite capital ship, if they cant use that ship that they have always dreamed about flying then you have lost that player!
So choose your future:
1. Discovery small close-knit community with half baked lore only appealing to the veterans but will slowly die-off because of loss of interest!
or
2. Discovery Blown Wide-Open Mod, universe of possibility with fully-rounded lore where anything can happen with adventures in every part of Sirius not just Magellan!
(10-07-2013, 07:25 PM)Pavel Wrote: 1.) Planning (mostly cap) raids as a main source of activity for Houses sucks and is a sign the server turns more and more into simple pvpfest.
2.) Instead of trying to focus game mechanics on giving all the activity navy factions think about others, for example House corps. Some changes were already made, but more is needed.
3.) Rheinland won't be dead if people stop whining about it being dead, looking for weird or retarded ways to get activity, and just start playing in Rheinland again, especially as local lawful and unlawful factions.
4.) Related to the previous point - play nice with others, don't gank pls. 5.) Summer you bastard you nerfed my commie Nyx, I used to pvpwhore in Rheinland in it.
But thats what the people want, players love the capfights between houses it get the blood flowing as it is real battles that people long for.
Fighting with local pirate factions that inRP and on server dont have that many caps to fight against becomes boring since when did you hear of regular Hessian Raids requiring Rheinland RNC Fleets to defend against them. Since when do you hear of any Hessian action at all I dont hear anything neither do I hear anything from the Kusari Pirate factions giving the KNF a run for their money.
Peoples majority interest in terms of combat lie in House to House Confrontation the more possibility the better, trust me if you open up a new front in Kusari between the Rheinland / Exiles vs KNF and GMG after 4.87 is rollbacked and finalized watch the activity and interest in disco spike again.
Argue you all you want but nothing raises interest like War, and y'all Lore Writers could easily write founding RP / arrange RP events to get that Lore into Motion.
Why is everyone scared to disturb the status quo??
EDIT: As I said in the earlier post pick your side, because disco will follow one of those two lines its inevitable. As Freelancer becomes an older and older game, interest will continue to whine down.
Conservative RP Universes, dont capture the imagination like a War does. Think of all the RP possibilities that would be opened up if it became canon.
There does not always have to be war war war, but for this mod 4.87 the storyline needs a bit more "spunk".
Kusari Republic is weak after all its been through. The Exiles have been waiting for their chance to retake their Sovereign Territory after they were abandoned in the Taus by the KNF.
They have more than enough malice within them to want to try and regain Power, given Kusari's Weak Position and the delicate relationship between Kusari and Rheinland now, it means Kusari is a bug waiting to be squashed.
(10-07-2013, 07:56 PM)aakopa Wrote: You are part of Rheinland faction? I guess that you are not because you have not seen/heard about RHA activity in Rheinland...
I dont see massive pew raids with hessians swarming all over Rheinland, No so I dont think its that important really.
Who want massive pew pew raids what crash server? Yes, they are fine if it happens about 2 times in mouth, but not every week, I think making RP events is better idea.
Quote:In relation to GMG vs Rheinland not being feasible I also do not believe that to be true, GMG are just a corporation just because they have a monopoly on the H-Fuel Market does not mean they are something to be reckoned with. They have no real military and one on one they have nothing to match Rheinland's Armada of Ships, for every GMG Bomber Rheinland has 10. Thus Rheinland would sweep GMG aside quite easily.
I think this was exactly their mentality just before the previous 80-Year-War with GMG...which they LOST horribly.
Quote:3.) Rheinland won't be dead if people stop whining about it being dead, looking for weird or retarded ways to get activity, and just start playing in Rheinland again, especially as local lawful and unlawful factions.
Rheinland cannot afford a war with Kusari at the moment, we've got Hessians in Dresden that need to be put down, Libertonians in New Hampshire taking off with our property and we gotta consolidate our holdings and deal with what happened in Munich. Plus the Bretonians making unhappy noises at our Daumann boys in O-3 has the potential to spark off a whizzing match between the corporations there and we need to hold what we have there.