Quote:1.3 Every player must have one ID equipped on their ship. Actual ID items do not exist in roleplay and players must be treated based on their IFF, however, every player should follow the restrictions and allowances listed in their ID. In cases where these restrictions and allowances conflict with the server rules, the ID overrides the rules.
Basically, this issue comes into play with regards to bounties. If ID's are considered OORP, then shouldn't all faction blanket bounties on ID's be edited to say IFF? Granted, some people are overtly part of a faction, say tagged ships or ships that have been recorded as being affiliated with X, Y or Z.
I'm going to use an example of a recent RP occurrence (names omitted):
I am flying a pirate ID'd Freelancer IFF'd bayonet. A Bounty Hunter Guild ID/IFF'ed ship stops me and claims there is a bounty on me. My character had not been found pirating, and I was not on a lane at the time. (Well, traversing) When asked, he said that people with incorrect "papers" where bountied.
This scenario brings up a dilemma. Should ID's be continued to be identified for the sake of bounties, or should IFF's suffice? In a RP environment, I personally believe that Bounties should be based on IFFs or faction tags, not IDs. Now I know that this is a bit of a leap, but inRP it would make sense. Hell, even bounties for information on possible pirates so traders can report them would be an interesting difference.
My 2 cents.
Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts... perhaps the fear of a loss of power.
Quote:1.3 Every player must have one ID equipped on their ship. Actual ID items do not exist in roleplay and players must be treated based on their IFF, however, every player should follow the restrictions and allowances listed in their ID. In cases where these restrictions and allowances conflict with the server rules, the ID overrides the rules.
With this rule in place I believe it should be based on the players IFF's not their ID. The IFF is how a player appears to others in space the ID just defines what they can and cant do.
I am also not a huge fan of blanket bounties in general but that is another discussion.
Barghest with no IFF is obviously up to no good.
Rogue IFFed Scimitar is up to no good as well.
But on Blanket Bounties as a whole:
unaffilated freelancer can work mostly everywhere and for everyone, it makes real roles obseleet in most cases. There are too few LPI officers, while there are way more freelancer around.
What if... Liberty would pay LPI officers "bonuses" for doing their job in form of Bounties? Maybe we would see more LPI being in space and performing their role?
Easy.
Your name is on the board. Not your "ID" or "IFF", even when it comes to blanket bounties, because to claim them, you show the targets name as one of the claiming rights.
You could be sipping tea in a pub, but the BHG would still cap your bountied ass.
Why should he care what you are doing at the time?
You know how you are allowed to treat transports as combat targets while bounty hunting if they are bountied? Why would the same ID-Rule overwrite not apply here?
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(11-14-2013, 10:18 AM)sindroms Wrote: Easy.
Your name is on the board. Not your "ID" or "IFF", even when it comes to blanket bounties, because to claim them, you show the targets name as one of the claiming rights.
You could be sipping tea in a pub, but the BHG would still cap your bountied ass.
Why should he care what you are doing at the time?
You know how you are allowed to treat transports as combat targets while bounty hunting if they are bountied? Why would the same ID-Rule overwrite not apply here?
I don't think you understood the point I was trying to make. He was attempting to shoot me for the Liberty Navy. The ship is not listed by name on the board. The only way he would have known I was a pirate was by the Pirate ID.
ID's are not inRP. Why should inRP bounties call for an OORP item? It makes no sense.
Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts... perhaps the fear of a loss of power.
Yeah, I understand that, but the RULE says that you cannot treat players by their ID
At the same time, the BHG ID allows to hunt players listed on the bounty board. It is a conflict.
"In the case of a conflict, IDs override server rules"
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Quote:What if... Liberty would pay LPI officers "bonuses" for doing their job in form of Bounties? Maybe we would see more LPI being in space and performing their role?
As a member of LPI I think that is a fantastic suggestion. Although I do log my LPI char quite often it would definitely give an extra incentive for others to log more or for indies to join LPI.
Dunno, all the complains I have seen about the bounty system seems to be made by people, who would love nothing more than to get away with hostile actions taken in lawful space.
It is easy to laugh about some guy you can kill over and over and poses no threat, but the moment you realize that he has a few spare hundreds of mil kicking around and hunters generally are much more PVP orientated players, you do not tend to smile as often and tend to reconsider whether harassing the target in the first place is worth it.
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