Dab,Apr 22 2006, 06:31 PM Wrote:*OOC: First that is what we call power-playing in RP.
Guys we need to remember to keep this at least slightly realistic. There is no possible way one, ONE, huegenot could kill that much with computer ran fighters. OOC off*
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1st off in my opinion you've totally hijacked angels story.
Right, now dab this reply you posted made me laugh really hard for a long time.
Why?
Because you should have taken a really good long look at your own posts before making that post.
Kane used ONE fleet that pretty much stripped rhienland of ships and then you turn up with TWO fleets that equal it in size. With another fleet or two in reserve that are bigger.
Second, you always say your fleet loses are very minor because they are very well trained. Training doesn't help you when your ship has it's hull melted or blown off and your crew are sucked into space. Also if the best trained pilot in existance is taking so enough fire you can't move without being hit.
It's really irritating when your reading an RP story to see your AW never losing unless you want them to.
Third, if you want realism why would the AW have cloaking devices?
The Order I can understand, they had the Osiris.
The Rheinlanders would probably have kept a stockpile of them (after the nomad incident), under such heavy guard you'd never be able to get in sight of one let alone steal it.
The Nomads, they use the ones the dom kavosh gave them.
The Phantoms, the nomads gave them the cloacking tech (because the phantoms helped the nomads cause trouble for the CRI).
The corsairs don't have cloaking tech because the Order aren't stupid enough to give it to a pirate faction. So they wouldn't give it to anyone else either to preserve the power balance.
You won't get the nomads giving anyone but the phantoms cloaking tech (because the phantoms hate everyone, like the nomads).
The rhienlanders won't give it to anyone else either, they wouldn't even admit that they've still got any.
The phantoms are hated by your alien thingy so there's no way it'd agree to trading stuff for cloaking tech.
And lastly the Dom kavosh aren't around anymore.
Plus if you want realism in RP fleet / fighter battles then use player Vs player fights not player Vs NPC's.
Fourth, why the hell do you need all this psychic power stuff? From what I've read your using it the force the story to go where you want it to. You want to be in charge (well thats what it looks like to me) so no-one can surprise you or beat you. Now that is power-gaming.
This is why all my RP stuff is invite only.
Thats it, for now.
Before you start ranting dab (or anyone else for that matter), seriously, go back and look at your posts. If you think they don't need changing then there's no point even discussing this.
I never said we had cloaking devices, note how I said we had to stay out of sensor range to avoid detection. We can only detect cloaked ships. We never said anything about the Dom'kavash what was that about? I had two fleets that were barely stronger than the one escorting the chanceller. Kreig still has the Seig fleet, and I guess I'll allow him to destroy the Enterprise battlegroup but the Enterprise will somehow survive as only Korrd has the right to say if it was destroyed or not. Also when did my ship have ull plates blasted off and crew being sucked into space. It would take alot of that to take out the entire BS. Also the Enterprise fleet DID lose, and the Ableben battlegroup almost did too. Before the Phantoms came we were evenly numbered with them due to our greater number of battleships. And their one BS was disabled quickly so it couldn't help. And the fleet would have lost if not for the running after grabbing the chanceller, because of the Seig fleet and the Phantoms. Also which do you think could bring more firepower quickly? The guy that controls the systems the battle is taking place in and so has many ships nearby anyway, or who has them far away and will take a long time to get there, and have to still protect their system keeping some reserves there. In total the AW would be able to bring its entire fleet (the ENTIRE AW) which would be much larger so they have no chance of actually entering Theta our home system without being destroyed.
marauder,Apr 23 2006, 05:16 PM Wrote:Before you start ranting dab (or anyone else for that matter), seriously, go back and look at your posts. If you think they don't need changing then there's no point even discussing this.
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you really didn't bother reading this last bit did you?
You obviously don't think there's anything wrong with your posts so there's no need for this thread to be here anymore. Or for me to explain my first post.
Oh and dab I'm not mad at you at all, I'm fed up with your power-gaming and your egotism and I've had enough of it (your latest post in angels story thread is a good example of it).
Unlike others with who have problems with you I'm not gonna leave the server. I'm gonna stay as far away from you as I can, so don't talk to me I don't want to know and don't try fighting me because I'm telling you now if you come after ANY of my characters I'm just gonna log off the server.
If a moderator or igiss could delete this entire thread as it's no longer needed I'd be grateful.
Dab, Marauder is correct in his assessment of your RP posts.
You're writing a lot of your posts TOO MUCH in your favor. Namely, you're acting as if AW is this hugely powerful, god-like fleet.
Here's a reality check for you. Even the most well-trained fleet can be destroyed by a single rogue. Why? VERY easy.. cause of their ego. Same with you.
Remember that 'debate' we had on Xfire? Prime example of this. You gotta learn when to tone it down. Hell, tone it down *NOW* ok? You've managed to really irritate a lot of people with this display of ego and power
I'm pretty sure there are those of us out there that would very much like to see your ego go away, but I can't do that. no one can.. Except you. Either learn to respect other's powers and realize that even *YOU* cannot beat other people..
Or don't deal in RP at all. it's ruining the experience for a lot of us.
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One thing here... The AW are NOT a house. Rhinland has more reasources then the AW ever will. I don't care how much tech you have, or how much "better" your soldiers are trained... If Rhinland has to, they will drown you in their blood. There is no way you could ever win a war with Rhinland. Hell, in the Nomad Invasion, the other HOUSES couldn't stand up to them! How do you expect you, the little empire on the edge of nothing, to stop them?
And I never said the Enterprise was destroyed. I just said the bridge was taken out. Korrd didn't have to be on the bridge. But without the bridge, the ship is like a person without a head.
What's really pissing me off is that you keep pulling these new fleets out of thin air! You say we keep winning, but every time it gets to close, YOU PULL OUT ANOTHER YOU "KEPT IN RESERVE!" You only have so many resources, and with every lost fighter you lose another irreplaceable thing... Manpower. There are only so many people you can have, while Rhinland has (in comparison) an unlimmited supply.
Your not fighting a single faction here. All of Rhinland is getting ready to be arrayed against you, and there isn't a thing your going to be able to do about it.
This is the real true story of rock and roll; it was not about anything more then, how to live your life, as a gangster, in sartorial splendor, and turning the world into a place where normality would never return again...- Malcolm McLaren
Very well Kane you have proved your point but right now with regards to the story the person you are trying to outwit with regards to the chancellor is me, Dab hasnt posted lately so this can be something he refer to in future stories.
I know where it is Cortana, I just have to find it. - Commodore Puddles
Damn.. Damn.. Itchy keyboard. I have to agree with everyone but Dab. There is RP
and there is taking the p*ss. Dab you have stepped way out the bounds of being
acceptable. I enjoy these events right up until the time you come in. Then I don't
bother any more, because you won't lose. Makes a mockery of everybody elses
hard work.
Thank God you don't have a Phantom tag , as that would be another RP story we
could all kiss goodbye too. I'll shut up now, And Dab if you have any sense you
will also.
Hoodlum :P
Some say he is a proud member of: "The most paranoid group of people in the Community."
Alpha 429,Apr 23 2006, 01:33 PM Wrote:Very well Kane you have proved your point but right now with regards to the story the person you are trying to outwit with regards to the chancellor is me, Dab hasnt posted lately so this can be something he refer to in future stories.
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*sigh* A single battleship (yours) against the Rheinland Fleet?
you're either very cocky and stupid.. or just plain out STUPID.
I'd have handed both Kreig and the Chancellor over real fast...
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Actually its 3 battleships and their escorts, all the ones that survived the battle with the smaller rheinland fleet. And actually I never used any battlegroups that I didn't previously mention. The only things that appeared afterwords was the Beta battlegroup that I hadn't said anything about even though I mentioned that there was at least one for each system. And the two starfighter carriers. Those really wouldn't make much a differnces. Also I allowed him to beat the Enterprise battlegroup I just said it probably wouldn't happen that fast. Oh and Kane what I meant by you can't destroythe Enterprise is after the battle or tow it away or anything like that, I'm not saying you already did. And then we come to the cloaking issue. I think the first one to state anything about cloaking ships was when Kreigs fleet cloaked. As I said my main group never cloaked. And I think Alpha only had the Leviathen cloak AFTER they did. Plus he mentioned he was already in Delta so he wasn't just a ship that came out of nowhere. He was already near the battle and as Alpha also already said was outfitted with huge engines allowing it to travel very fast.
And another thing. You are all saying that I can pull out this huge fleets but you must not have read my posts carefully. I pulled out almost every ship in the Omicrons to the battles, from Alpha, Theta, Beta, and the Sigma-17 battlegroups (the term we use that would be a fleet for Rheinland). So trhe equivilant of 5 fleets including our biggest were not the same size as 2 *2* Rheinland fleets. I have in no way said or proved or anything that we had a larger fleet that Rheinland. In fact in both battles I specifically stated that they had more ships that us. The only reason we won the unknown fight was due to the fact we had more battleships than them but less cruisers and gunboats than the other, and because we were behind them so they were at a disadvantage. As well as we are better skilled than them. Which we kinda have proven. Now you guys need to seriously read posts your talk about before you bash on them.
Lets go with the (basic) destruction and control of Zerstoren. Now, Zerstoren is, from what I understand, completely insane, yes. But he still is the BEST pilot that Rheinland even if he is in a bomber. He's pull something at you to do AT LEAST some damage. Hell, he'd probably open the hatch and throw rocks instead of losing a fight.
And you take him out with one run.... YEAH RIGHT.... I want you to take out, say, Korrd's Bomber IN ONE RUN. Then, I'll say its not powerplaying.