(02-25-2014, 02:01 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Good lord people you can roleplay a colony ship without being in a battleship.
I agree it does not have to be a battleship, I would not mind if the firepower are lowered a bit. At the same time, I can tell you that a colony ship in a battle transport is simply not fit for purposes when all these back story's already exists.
Oh this just popped in my head, with all the talk of nerfing Nephs, why are not buff the barge at the same time in your list? It is pretty defensiveness right now
(02-25-2014, 02:01 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: We are physically unable to act upon lore direction requests if the official faction in charge of them doesn't actually bring them up to us.
Instead of fully relying on us waiting for a response, because official factions are unaware of the change, why don't you ask us instead ?
Not once have I seen a post asking any of the 3 Zoner factions recently for any guidance on lore. It was just bam ! We are changing stuff because you have not told us anything! Do you see how ridiculous it sounds ?
(02-24-2014, 11:01 PM)Kazinsal Wrote: It's a strange day when I of all people am asked for insight.
I digress.
Basically, all I can really do is say, what's done is done. I can't reverse this, nor am I going to (personally, I've been campaigning against Zoner warships for years now and backing it up with the same lore and roleplay references and comparisons, and hey, it finally worked). No amount of whining or counterargumentation is going to reverse this decision. Unless we're all stricken by lightning and we all drop dead at the same time, the development team will be proceeding in this direction as planned. I apologize if you don't like this, but my colleague said it best:
Listen here you
You have done nothing. No discussion with the affected factions. Or the affected people. You have gained no consensus nor have you offered any reason other than
Quote:The indies screwed up wah wah wah.
This is powergaming plain and simple. Forcing something on usthat damages our RP. Igiss set down that it's against the rules of the mod.
Jinx approached the official factions the last time this idea came up and asked them to testify in FAVOUR of keeping the battleships? You know what they did? They didn't respond.
Barge getting a bit more armour might not be a bad idea. Could be a terrible idea. Could be a great one. Dunno.
EDIT: Gytrash, it's not powergaming if it's not in-RP. This isn't powergaming. This is game development.
(02-25-2014, 02:28 AM)Kazinsal Wrote: Jinx approached the official factions the last time this idea came up and asked them to testify in FAVOUR of keeping the battleships? You know what they did? They didn't respond.
Barge getting a bit more armour might not be a bad idea. Could be a terrible idea. Could be a great one. Dunno.
NO HE DID NOT!
I have asked literally everybody involved for the last two years and only one of them ever heard from Jinx. He said, "Yeah it's a bad idea" and called it a day. Now you have everyone getting mad because getting onto one person adn then telling you it's a bad idea does not mean that you contacted all of them.
Doc didn't hear about it. Neither did Redeclipse, MadJohn, Nitroxo, Aazalot, Justin, Daedric, Bret, Sabre or myself. All people who should have been contacted. Hell, I was on skype the entire time I was taking a discobreak. I was also in a lot of the chats where this would have been discussed.
The decision has been made,without asking those who are directly affected by the decision.And they dont give a damn about these many people who do want the decision to be reversed.Whenever we can ask something regarding the work that manypeople put in here,all they reply is irrelevant "why cant you do the same in this" stuff.
Its an unique community,decision are made without asking the community members,then some make up stuff put up,as this thread,to back it up,another old thread,to which they dont even reconsider another poll.They dont bother about the factions that are affected by this,not in their single moment replying to this thread.
When a part of the community,who are going to put up with this change,refuses so,then they mean it.You can give thousands of reasons,but you are not the one that is going to put up with the changes.You dont even play Zoners,so you cant shove the change upon us,when we people,who ACTUALLY play Zoners,dont want it.Many people who oppose this,wont be affected in one way or the other when this change arises,they play their favourite factions,which is obviously not going to be Zoners.Then what irks the eyes of you guys?Simply because the Zoners have a BS which is far more superior than your favourite factions?
If that is the case,then nothing can be done,even more,when they have the backing up of all the superior people.You dont play a Zoner,you dont know what it means to play one,you will never intend to play one,but you want to watch the whole faction die and deprieve them of something that they have possesed since a long time.That is some serious ego issues to be dealt with.What joy do you get afterall,by affecting something that you are never gonna ba a part of,never going to suffer due to the change that you caused,but just watch the others putting up with it?
When this decision is already made,why do you even bother about posting this thread?To make us feel wounded even more?Fair job.Community,what is that?
Its clear they have planed this change for a long time, arguing wont change there minds. You can tell by the answers their giving that don't make allot of sense. Let them continue like this and wreck the video game for allot of people I say. Maybe it will spark a rival server to compete with the official one and there'll be two places to pick from/play at. Competition is a good thing after all it keeps game runners on there toes and prevents things like this from happening. I doubt it will happen but hell, you never know.