I just realized that by having Tel Aviv in DW already made it fail by default.
EDIT: Let me expand on this.
Aviv has a nasty habit of utterly inflating any fly into an elephant and has a horrible lack of straight thinking, when it comes to feedback. Having him as your spokesperson will kill your faction.
Heck, I could even be a better pick than Tel at this point.
Doesnt sound like a critic, sounds more like an insult. Now, don't post here until the story is done. Thank you,
(03-28-2014, 10:29 PM)Shizune Wrote: I'm going to say something here
Nice copy and paste history of the [HF]
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I do not look favourably upon those who plagiarise my work and that of my predecessors. There are far better ways to become part of the greater Hellfire Legion than by taking the faction's history to be your own, and then pretending the current [HF] player faction does not exist or has no position of authority. Whether or not they have any ooRP authority is irrelevant: if you want to become part of what [HF]'s players have created, then you could at least show them a little bit of respect, and try and work together.
(For reference, the faction info currently displayed in the OP is copied from [HF]'s Wiki page.)
When it comes to responding to faction feedback, the only person replying should be the faction leader (or a delegated higher-ranking subordinate); in other words, someone capable of calm, rational discussion. Tel-Aviv has demonstrated that he is unsuitable for such a role, and I recommend you restrict him from any further comments here, which are only making the situation worse. The same goes for in-roleplay communications. Simply being the most active on the Discovery forums does not automatically qualify a player to be a good faction representative.
Tel...you're seriously ruining your reputation among the discovery players, what's the point in copying our stuff? I would call that stupidity, and this thing is really really stupid. It won't earn you guys anything if you keep on going like this. Not to mention you guys are repeating the SAME old thing over again, if you remember ZA.
That base, is not gonna get to core 4 or something, because I already know what you guys will do: Lockdown. It's common sense, pretty easy to assume, but that's not gonna happen.
Also, the [HF] Player Faction wiki page belongs to us, as it always did, so please, make your own wiki, and go make a different faction, and find something better to do on discovery.
Ok, here's an advice.
With current way of faction making, you'd better don't do it at all. Instead, apply into [HF] faction. I'm pretty sure they'll accept most of you. And then the magic will be done. A couple of enthusiasts in zombie(correct me if I wrong) faction can easily become leaders within 2-3 months. But first understand one simple thing. Hellfire Legion(aswell as Red Hessians... more or less) are not about piracy or harrasing civilians. It's about killing mostly military targets and RPing you're doing it for the Greater Good.
Let me make this clear and thats to my own people aswell!
The Lore that i have used is HellFire Lore, so to make a new Hellfire Lore up is beyond stupid!
Next this is still a working project!!
Which means i will expand further, not just leave it to a mere few sentences!
As for treating the New Hellfire Leadership badly...ill make this clear as i did in the post! "First contact is that threatening post", read my posts on that comm...you will see im still confused about who they are!! Wouldnt you be if some random person came up to you and said Im your brother now lend me some money!
I know who the Hellfire are *laughs* silly moo...you know who you are for making that comment....i just didnt hear about leadership changes etc...read the post again..then think he(me) knows their HF(signal) but not who they are personally..no previous comm to establish.
By the way reading some of their previous posts as BHG or afew of their other alter ego's look very similiar.
So let me expand on that alittle for those that dont understand how things work.
If you are not heard of for 7 months, then asfar as anyone is concerned you died or retired to some dust bowl of a planet!
If you change leadership over night and then assume that i will meta-game and know who you are then you FAILED!
If you are NOT the official Faction then you cant assume to make demands from another un-official faction.
Now an offer was made to me by HellFire to merge my guys in with them.....reading all the hate about afew of the guys who have joined me...i can say with reasonable assumtion that they the current Hellfire are not the kind of people i would like to try and have fun with.
Im not saying their bad people, but just like all of you..i read and assume!
As for Tel..yes he needs to keep out of this..as it seems that a comment was made from afew that you Hate him...now personaly iv spoken with Tel on TS3 and he seems very polite and insightful. I think when he writes, he is mis-judged or just like the wife when i text her and she mis-understands what i wrote...i get 20 Questions and i dig myself a hole.
So in all give me time to do write up and then read as i work on it.
Also, the case that you think we aren't friendly, we have our reasons for that, and I can point out a LOT of them right now, we even suggested getting merged, but you don't seem to like us, but then you copy everything, and that fuels our anger on you, you shouldn't have copied things in the first place! Also,our group's roleplay and other thing were written BEFORE you guys, so then what's the point in copying?
(03-29-2014, 08:55 AM)daniyalcooldude Wrote: Also, the case that you think we aren't friendly, we have our reasons for that, and I can point out a LOT of them right now, we even suggested getting merged, but you don't seem to like us, but then you copy everything, and that fuels our anger on you, you shouldn't have copied things in the first place! Also,our group's roleplay and other thing were written BEFORE you guys, so then what's the point in copying?
If you get angry so fast, perhaps you should reconsider what the game is about. ( It's about having fun, just in case. )
The group is trying to fit and to adapt. Give them some slack. Creating such hostile atmosphere is helping noone and only casts bad image on both groups, Dark Wing and [HF] itself.