Quote:Ok i have to ask...where isnt covered by the elite? There was one suggestion run as BHG..oh wait same people in HF run it, ill try..umm Order no, Gallia no, Rheinland no, Liberty no, Kusari no, Bretonia no, everywhere alse no...so please tell me where a new faction can start...without this elite following claiming everywhere as their own domain?
Suddenly, 2 major unlawful factions of Rheinland- Unioners and LWB are not covered with official/any active faction. AFAIK, there's Jansen, who's answering in RP threads about LWB... that's all.
While I can't speak for Bretonia from same point-there's no active faction for Gaians and Molly's activity is lower than floor.
most of it is much better. the one issue i have is the below quoted section. it sounds like you are trying to inject yourselves into established law.
It seems a bit powergamey, because you make it seem like the original HF escaped because you "valiantly sacrificed yourselves".
Maybe RP as more recent defectors? that way, you establish your place, while not trying to claim to be part of original lore/RP.
It also gives you a chance to refresh and explore relations with [HF].
on a final, and old point, the base right next to the magellan JH. maybe let it die? then if you want another base, RP it out with the neighbors.
(03-09-2014, 12:11 PM)Von-Struder Wrote: History of Drakes Wolves
The Wolf Squadron under the command of Commander Lucas Stone, were an Elite Liberty Navy Squadron. The Squadron were attached to Commodore Drake Thastus command, they looked upon Thastus with awe and treated his order's as law. They never doubted him when he told them his plan and thought's about what was happening in Liberty, they would gladly follow him and Commander Stone to the depth's of Hell and back again.
The Wolf Squadron aka Drakes Wolves, were captured in the escape from Liberty in 800 A.S.during which they fought a delaying action, while the Battleship Ragnarok along with the rest of its escort made its way out of Liberty. They threw themselves upon the Liberty Navy, the squadron numbered sixty Heavy fighters and ten Bomber's. They fought undaunted even when they saw their fellow Wolves fall and it gave them more strength against the overwhelming number's of Liberty Navy fighters. During the battle they destroyed five to every ship they lost, this and previous event's gained them a reputation for courage, skill and recklessness.
Once the Battleship Ragnarok had escaped, they had known their own fates were sealed with the jump gate cut off and their number's dwindling. Their Commander Lucas Stone ordered them to stand down and surrender, it was by far the hardest order he had to give, but he was safe in the knowledge that his friend and patron had escaped.
Drakes Wolves still stand for DW. Which, as already mentioned, have killed their reputation.
I highly suggest you make a new name.
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Guys, just accept it as it is. HF is too much for you now.
Try to make it from something minor. Indeed Gajan and Mollys can use some love. Fly few month as completely independat Molly IDed players, getting on with stuff around, gathering all necessary info. Also, would be usefull, if you would ask someone, who know how to run faction, and take few advices from him.
Then, try to make small groupe, and establish some relations with others. That would do much better, rather declarating war to everyone. Show some activity, interest and respect to other players. So they would enjoy playing with you, and generate some activity.
And when you will have noted goals (not just kill any red for the sake of your faction) but reasonable way of RPing. History background and other stuff, only then, you can pretend for making faction, which, could eventually become offical. But you guys trying to build skyscraper on sandy beach.
Oh, and forget about bases, space defence stations and things like that. Create PoB as secret research/backup command station, but NOT JH BLOCKER.
My issue is not with you acknowledging the existing Hellfire Legion lore - that's a good thing, in fact. The initial problem is that it simply looked like you were copying it without acknowledging its origins. Having your own section act the end, about how you are part of the greater NPC faction, is a good start, but it needs some work. Consider that the founding members of HF fled Liberty before the start of the recent Rheinland-Liberty war. There was a suggestion earlier about how your group could be recent defectors to the cause, which would permit easier integration.
Also, the HF ID you currently have listed in the OP is out of date. That's the ID of the [HF] when it was official, not the current open HF ID.
Furthermore, this sort of "roleplay" is immature and ineffective at communicating anything meaningful. Simply laughing and saying "we are the best simply because we exist" is not usually considered an acceptable attitude from any faction, whether Official or not.
PS. Having character names left over from "The Vons"... that's pretty weak.
The thing is the wolves had no knowledege of 'Hellfire' as such. Only of their former commander...so in reality they are very new to the concept and working's of Hellfire.
The thing with new 'recent defectors', would you or could you trust them? An example is that a group who you have been fighting with additional of propoganda is seen as the 'Enemy', if they suddenly turned up...would you welcome them with open arm's with trust all shiny new or would you be slighlty hesitant in welcoming them?
Making the Wolves have a background with family in mind was a better way, you would accept the fact that people you thought as imprisioned, returning to find their loved one's would make more sense.
The Hellfire have a population from which they can recruit from, they may recruit one or two pilots from Liberty with some research etc but nothing so big as a whole motley crew.
The Von thing is getting sorted, as you know people have rl and the group cover's 3 timezones...so catching them and or passing on messages will get this issue fixed.