(03-31-2014, 06:58 PM)Curios Wrote: If you say pirating isn't dead then you're not aware of what that mean to live in the world of pirates. Like 4.84 - 4.85 when on every run you could be pirated for not a single time.
trust me i know what u mean.
the server pop DID go down too. So thats also another reason.
Most new players are also going only lawfuls, which is cool. Just means more fishys for me.
Edit: nOmnomnOm SCREWED UP AGAIN!
i really gotta pay more attention to what account im on.
Now, all things said may be true, the real issue here is player vs player interaction. Now, as a pirate things go to almost "hey there, may i pirate you?! or "2mill or die". Being a RP game, we need to focus on having fun here, so, while on a trader char stop, chat and run from the pirate- or don´t- but make it in a form that you may enjoy. While on a pirate - look at the link - create a char that you may enjoy to be but remenber always that these lolcaps around, etc, came from players that felt some kind of "injustice", or "wants their revenge"... So make them feel that in space you may be pirated, you may die, you may loose cargo, but you can have fun in it.
And yes, even if Rheinland is empty, you may find good players with great chars to interact with. So... (points at link)...
G.
Edited: Hey Luis i think we have flown together in .84
Well you probably don't want feedback from 'newer' players but I will brace myself for the onslaught anyway......
Player numbers, I will get to in a while but first some observations from our players who we have brought onto server....
Disco is a great mod, game looks beautiful with all the new content and upgraded graphics, new commodities, new ships etc etc, server is remarkably stable, considering the original player limit of 32 has been massively upped to 200.
We have chatted at length in our group and the main gripe that we, and we assume many newer players have is the limitations put upon them by the pre existing factions. These guys have been here years and believe that this gives them certain rights and priviliges. Newer groups are hounded and ground down on for minor errors and insome cases beastd by groups of players who just need an excuse to smack down the new guys.
In most cases, rather than offer guidance or support to help new groups/players get going there are more lolz to be had in making this an unfriendly and unpleasant place to play your game.
You talk about lack of RP from newer players, we found quite the opposite well established players doing the .... "Halt" "Pay me or Die" "5 secs" " Bang".
When attempting to converse with many players you are met with a sense of superiority bordering on contempt and considering this is a game to play for pleasure it is no surprise that newer guys just give up. Would be great to see the sever logs for new players who spent less that 2 hours playing the game.
The wiki is totally out of date, the RP in forums is confusing as hell and seems to be run by forum warriors who are hardly ever in game. Also the Disco forums and help threads are so messy and confusing that you can literally spend hours trying to find one useful piece of information.
Unless you DO want your game to die, long term players need to embrace the new guys a little more, mistakes will happen as the rules from server, rules of ID and individual faction laws are quite often at crossed purposes. It is no surprise that many newer players fall foul of these as you often need to know 3 completely different sets of rules to be in one system.
Case in point, just what I have read and from conversations with some of the parties on Teamspeak, the DarkWing/Hellfire thing..... Seems a group saw a dead faction and thought to resurrect it, suddenly from nowhere a pre existing group emerges from whatever faction they are currently playing to lay claim and hassle the newer guys. Now I am well aware several RP mistakes were made by those guys but at least they were trying.
Ourselves, we were lucky in finding some friends early on to help us out, this was more luck than judgement as we had spent a good 2 weeks trying to find our feet against a tide of hatred from various players on server. The attitude was 'how dare you try to come here with a group of friends' and I have commented at length about the pretty sorry rep in many different forums about Disco - NOT the MOD/ADMINS etc but the playerbase itself is seen as unfriendly and unwelcoming, a feeling we have iterated at some length.
maybe it is time for the game to have some sway over the RP rather than the other way round, actually play the game and Rp what happens, not write 1000 words on why your character has a particular ship/ equipment just play, this also counts towards the larger factions who sit in their systems doing nothing while RPing pointless non game affecting stuff like building theme parks or blocks of apartments.
You know there is 'in Lore' supposed to be a war going on, why is it then that all the major factions have their heaviest ships sitting in New York, New London, New Tokyo etc just ...... hanging around why not RP actually going to WAR! ?
There is nothing quite as good as a decent war to get people back in server, special events forum RP etc is all well and good but the game is stagnant without conflict (Space Combat and Trading) sound familiar?
Anyway Kudos to server owners for keeping it alive but maybe time for some of the houses to be re evaluated as to actual in game time, to make space and playability for the newer guys, and players stop being elitist snobs 17 year Old Admirals are not REALLY important and frankly us 30+s are getting a bit fed up with being dictated to by kids younger than my own
(04-02-2014, 08:43 AM)[GBS]Cherry2Blost[COL] Wrote: RPing pointless non game affecting stuff like building theme parks or blocks of apartments.
Whether intended or not, I take this as a personal attack. And given how much "pointless" writing has been done relating to the Raiders and Octavarium, I'm pretty sure it was intended.
Yeah, almost all of my writing has no effect on the game one way or the other, but here's the thing: there's more to life than what Freelancer can depict. Freelancer does not and cannot properly handle matters of economic development, any sort of construction beyond hackishly-implemented bases, the actual financial and logistical difficulties of running a colony, and hundreds of other things.
There are two schools of thought on this. The one you espouse is that we just ignore all of the "pointless" stuff and focus on what Freelancer can handle - that is, shooting people.
The other is that those of us with an interest should put in the effort to create a richer, more interesting world.
Now, if you simply don't have an interest, fine, that's one thing. If we all had the freedom to focus on what we found most interesting, I imagine the general mood of the server would be much better. I'm happiest when I'm handling writing - background stuff like colony development, diplomacy, etc. I do not enjoy fighting as much anymore; despite Aerelm's efforts, it still largely feels the same as it did six years ago when I first started playing.
But if you're going to call the hours I've put into my writing pointless, screw you and the horse you rode in on.
Just so you are aware alot of this server's shiny toys and how the mod progresses comes ALOT from said 'Pointless RPing'. Don't diss what you don't know until you have ALL the facts mate. Because without those people writing and RPing there would be for example no war between houses like Rheinland/Liberty. No shiny battle-cruisers and carriers. Various factions would have VERY different diplomacies that wouldn't change PERIOD.
Just saying don't hate those who write, the time and effort they put into their individual RP's and cooperative RP's is what makes Sirius go 'round.
Since the essence of RP is interaction via fictional characters, it should not really concern you about who is on the other side. Speaking as a racist, I mean.
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(04-02-2014, 08:43 AM)[GBS]Cherry2Blost[COL] Wrote: RPing pointless non game affecting stuff like building theme parks or blocks of apartments.
Whether intended or not, I take this as a personal attack. And given how much "pointless" writing has been done relating to the Raiders and Octavarium, I'm pretty sure it was intended.
Yeah, almost all of my writing has no effect on the game one way or the other, but here's the thing: there's more to life than what Freelancer can depict. Freelancer does not and cannot properly handle matters of economic development, any sort of construction beyond hackishly-implemented bases, the actual financial and logistical difficulties of running a colony, and hundreds of other things.
There are two schools of thought on this. The one you espouse is that we just ignore all of the "pointless" stuff and focus on what Freelancer can handle - that is, shooting people.
The other is that those of us with an interest should put in the effort to create a richer, more interesting world.
Now, if you simply don't have an interest, fine, that's one thing. If we all had the freedom to focus on what we found most interesting, I imagine the general mood of the server would be much better. I'm happiest when I'm handling writing - background stuff like colony development, diplomacy, etc. I do not enjoy fighting as much anymore; despite Aerelm's efforts, it still largely feels the same as it did six years ago when I first started playing.
But if you're going to call the hours I've put into my writing pointless, screw you and the horse you rode in on.
Hey matey, no need to get defensive on it, no insult was intended, was just observations made by ourselves, hey whatever floats your boat.
Perhaps DiscoveryGC just isn't the place for you and your roaming gaming clan.
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exactly the type of snide comment we have come to expect, want players, but only want your type of players. Dont complain about player numbers then !
If you do not like the way we do things here, and do not wish to adapt, then perhaps you should find some place that doesn't work the way this place does.
This is not intended to be snide. I do not wish to tell you off. I am simply stating the facts.