I was around in the early stages of the war, from what I recall...
1. Rheinland exposed Liberty nom research, aggregating the government.
2. Liberty attempted to steal Rheinland's own research and annexed planet Atka, a planet in Hudson both Houses wanted.
3. In doing so, they violated the agreement that prohibited houses from deploying significant number of military ships into border worlds.
4. Liberty declared war
5. Rheinland fights DEFENSIVE war ever since (dont let the Texasburg fool ya) since they were smaller than Liberty.
And yes, I could blame your faction just like that. Makes about as much sense as you claiming Rheinland threats without giving any evidence of.
Liberty is currently engaged in a war with Rheinland over allegations of illegal Nomad research by Liberty scientists, as well as arguments over the administration of the independent systems of Bering and Hudson. Almost all economic ties have been severed between the two houses, with the exception of limited Synth Foods and Interspace Commerce transports.
As of 817 A.S. Rheinland is involved in a shooting war with Liberty, after a surprise declaration of war published at the start of the year. Most of the fighting is currently under way in the fairly isolated Bremen system, with skirmishes between border patrols taking place in Hudson and Bering.
However, there was little time to bring them up to the legendary skill of their predecessors. Rheinland had uncovered evidence that Liberty was experimenting on Nomad material procured in the deep Omicrons, and was using it to develop superior technology with which to prepare for war. Although both houses fell to the Nomads during the war, Rheinland had been adamant about destroying them wherever they were found and vigilantly obliterating anything coming in from the Omicrons that could potentially allow them a second foothold. Rheinland's battles with Das Wilde did not make them any more lenient in this position, but Liberty had no experience with such horrors and ignored their pleas. Rheinland then argued that if Nomads were to be studied, it should be to find ways to fight them; but fighting the Nomads was a much less pressing concern for Liberty, cushioned as they were by the Order and the Bounty Hunters Guild Core. The story leaked to Rheinland's press, and quickly escalated from there.
Once war broke out, Rheinland quickly learned the strengths of its weaknesses of its forces. Liberty maintained the largest known armada of capital warships, as well as possessing a squadron of expert fighter pilots- the kind which Rheinland had used to defeat the Brotherhood years before. However, while Rheinland was vastly outnumbered by warships and severely outclassed in fighter engagements, the fractured and nebulous wings of the Liberty Navy were, by and large, inferior to their opposite number in Rheinland. Liberty warships were designed to deal with other vessels of their class, and while Rheinland's capital fleet suffered gravely in all confrontations with their outnumbering Liberty counterparts, Rheinland's bomber squadrons found Liberty warships to be easy pickings. In one instance, a lone Bergelmir pilot sent to hold off a marauding Liberty Assault Battlecruiser equipped with the finest in armor decided to engage the ship, and by the time reinforcements arrived had almost completely crippled the ship single-handedly. While Liberty's forces nearly always triumphed over their Rheinland counterparts, fleet engagements went far better for the Rheinlanders, who had retained the tactics and cohesion learned in the war with the Brotherhood.
Discovery 4.84
The Kusari Tau-31 offensive is mired at Harris, but fighting continues.
Nomad gates built by the Wild are discovered.
Rheinland recovers and publishes proof about Liberty Nomad experiments.
You were saying?
But hey, this is not my job to worry about this, my worry is with the Solar Runners and Blood Dragons so I'll just leave this thread then
I believe that what this guy means is that inRP their group strongly believes Rheinland started the war. They're patriots. They strongly disagree with the notion that Liberty started the war.
It is good to finally see some nice summaries of Lib-Rhein war, because it is very hard to find some good info anywhere and from players only few remember times when war started (it is really a long war).
I think only argument here is that vets are trying to explain that truth is that Rheinland didn´t start the war and actually even didn´t provoke it, Liberty is the one to blame, like it or not. Problem is that majority of players who don´t have proper information tend to depict Rheinlanders as bad guys and attacking side, what is result of fact that ingame reality is that RM is much more often raiding Texas than LN raiding Hamburg (result of fact that LN have more possibilities of activity - fights with GRN and Liberty unlawfuls), so it looks like RM is the attacking side which is trying to conquer Texas.
But everybody should also understand that this is truth that only few people know inRP, especially in Liberty. So SFMC can believe that Rheinlanders are the bad ones here, being affected by lack of truthful information and by propaganda. I know that it doesn´t sound nice, nobody want´s to be the one who live in lie and believe propaganda but I see no problem with this position inRP.
Shizune, thanks again! Still sounds like the Rheinlanders were just jealous of Liberty's new purple shiny toys (can't blame them for that to be fair)!
Mister_X... i look forward to another friendly greeting from your boys and girls out there, you always make me feel 'wanted'
Lithrilux, hi, i'm no patriot, maybe i've chosen the 'wrong' side, but i'm following the profits, not the flag! (Liberty is the one to offer a free market model, not Rheinland, no arguing with that, well in RP terms anyway!)
And Laura C, thanks again, yep maybe i am blinded by false propaganda and incomplete info, can't argue with that either... good point about the why of the Rheinlanders always attacking Texas and not the other way around!