(02-03-2015, 03:28 PM)Shizune Wrote: Speaking as one of the higher ranks of the Order Primary Fleet, we are all 100% okay with this change; Be it logical or illlogical. It seems the only people that are getting ancy are those that might get nuked while on their Zoners by the Order. What, did you honestly expect a massive terrorist cell to stay friends with everyone? The Order has not stayed friends it with everyone, even before the ZA stuff started. As like, the 3iC of the Order, the only reason people seem to be get upset is those having a piss poor take on this. However as the Order primary fleet sees it, were 100% okay on this!
I"d like to just say that this is a critical blow to the order, how will it be reflected in-game? Well no more fps for them is one thing, No more trade hubs through which people can supply the order. In my mind that's critical, especaily after toledo and core incrusions. We can dress it up as much as we want but the order is completely cut and perhaps this is the time for zoners to work with the core. I don't understand the problems here, what is done is done - Just adapt to the new situation -
For once, I agree with you 100% Zen, this is what is currently being done on the Order side anyways, as for the questions, I'll leave that up to Noraim and Golly to answer.
(02-03-2015, 03:28 PM)Shizune Wrote: Speaking as one of the higher ranks of the Order Primary Fleet, we are all 100% okay with this change; Be it logical or illlogical. It seems the only people that are getting ancy are those that might get nuked while on their Zoners by the Order. What, did you honestly expect a massive terrorist cell to stay friends with everyone? The Order has not stayed friends it with everyone, even before the ZA stuff started. As like, the 3iC of the Order, the only reason people seem to be get upset is those having a piss poor take on this. However as the Order primary fleet sees it, were 100% okay on this!
I"d like to just say that this is a critical blow to the order, how will it be reflected in-game? Well no more fps for them is one thing, No more trade hubs through which people can supply the order. In my mind that's critical, especaily after toledo and core incrusions. We can dress it up as much as we want but the order is completely cut and perhaps this is the time for zoners to work with the core. I don't understand the problems here, what is done is done - Just adapt to the new situation -
For once, I agree with you 100% Zen, this is what is currently being done on the Order side anyways, as for the questions, I'll leave that up to Noraim and Golly to answer.
Can we also have Order losing Green Cells to Zoner stuff? That would be nice
(02-03-2015, 03:28 PM)Shizune Wrote: Speaking as one of the higher ranks of the Order Primary Fleet, we are all 100% okay with this change; Be it logical or illlogical. It seems the only people that are getting ancy are those that might get nuked while on their Zoners by the Order. What, did you honestly expect a massive terrorist cell to stay friends with everyone? The Order has not stayed friends it with everyone, even before the ZA stuff started. As like, the 3iC of the Order, the only reason people seem to be get upset is those having a piss poor take on this. However as the Order primary fleet sees it, were 100% okay on this!
I"d like to just say that this is a critical blow to the order, how will it be reflected in-game? Well no more fps for them is one thing, No more trade hubs through which people can supply the order. In my mind that's critical, especaily after toledo and core incrusions. We can dress it up as much as we want but the order is completely cut and perhaps this is the time for zoners to work with the core. I don't understand the problems here, what is done is done - Just adapt to the new situation -
For once, I agree with you 100% Zen, this is what is currently being done on the Order side anyways, as for the questions, I'll leave that up to Noraim and Golly to answer.
Can we also have Order losing Green Cells to Zoner stuff? That would be nice
This I can also agree to as well, save for the SRP'ed Neph the Order has which acts as the flag ship I think, beyond that, I agree that it makes no sense that we have Zoner warships/ships when we have our own
Edit: Anyways, I say we all take a break from this arguing we have going on and sit back and let the official factions work everything our before we jump the gun with blunt war.
(02-03-2015, 03:43 PM)Shizune Wrote: This I can also agree to as well, save for the SRP'ed Neph the Order has which acts as the flag ship I think, beyond that, I agree that it makes no sense that we have Zoner warships/ships when we have our own
Why have a Neph for a flagship when you've got your own?
(02-03-2015, 03:43 PM)Shizune Wrote: This I can also agree to as well, save for the SRP'ed Neph the Order has which acts as the flag ship I think, beyond that, I agree that it makes no sense that we have Zoner warships/ships when we have our own
Edit: Anyways, I say we all take a break from this arguing we have going on and sit back and let the official factions work everything our before we jump the gun with blunt war.
What SRP? there's none recorded. Order kept that neph because, for some unknown reason, Order kept its greencell to Zoner caps when the Cap cells were instituted.
(02-03-2015, 03:43 PM)Shizune Wrote: This I can also agree to as well, save for the SRP'ed Neph the Order has which acts as the flag ship I think, beyond that, I agree that it makes no sense that we have Zoner warships/ships when we have our own
Why have a Neph for a flagship when you've got your own?
This I have no idea, this ship is from, like far back then. From what I understand, it was from either A: The CoF or the Omicroners as a gift..Beyond that, I have no idea
(02-03-2015, 03:46 PM)S A D B O Y Wrote: you seem overly enthusiastic to screw over the order by the tone of your posts
The Order acted in violation of their ID towards alleged allies and lost allied status
Said allies are in lore the sole major suppliers of good things to the Order'
Order uses a bunch of Zoner tech needlessly
I personally dislike Golanski in the extreme
Golanski is the leader of the Order
I have always played a Zoner and in the past have been a member of the leadership of an official Zoner faction and the leader of an influential unofficial one.
Golanski tried to ruin the fun of both of said factions whenever he could.