An undesirable faction removed. Is there really anything else that needs to be said?
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There are way to do this allied stuff without stepping out of the NPC RP box that FR's hold factions in. Zoners actually have this easier. I've swung plenty of shady double crossing RP that cleverly created situations in which it was ok for our lawful IDd ships to shoot the lawful house military and police in our front lawn and that was the most extreme push of such a case/scenario. Never broke ID or RP. Phoenix, there was plenty of ways to help Order against your fellow Zoners without breaching your RP and ID. Yes for the most part that will require letting others get the blue message, nothing wrong with that, I myself was just as satisfied at seeing a blue message from hired help as I was had it come from my own guns. You got 3 months of trial period at least. Don't waste it. Take the time to figure out how you can do your allied RP more covertly.
just a question, who is not ok with who?
zoner with other zoners
................Order
order and nomad diplomacy, we almost know
zomad and order, refer on nomad/order diplomacy
i'm not order, but if i was order, i could kill some zomad
they can't stay cloaked now
i forgot, the zoner have enought ID, all sirius informed people know how work these guys.
I've been rather vocal in skype, but here's my view.
It seemed like a nice intricate plan from Red and Golanski, to troll zoners, and then abscond with an entire system, getting a shipline in the process, and access to a whole new enemy to fight.
In other words, it seemed the Admins were giving Phoenix and Order everything they wanted, as a reward for being asshats, all the while punishing the other two Zoner Officials with forced ZoI's.
What I think? I think it's always sad to see people punished, but I do think ( atleast partially ) that throughout the years they have always perreferd to side with Order then with zoners. They should be a Cerberus-like faction because they are simply using the zoner banner - They should relocate to Thebes and hold an Order IFF because judging their behaviour they are more concerned with the Order then with zoners. That's a problem.
My opinion...? The Phoenix RP was awesome being way out in omicrons dealing with nomad stuff working with order all pretty cool stuff. I don't really know/understand everything that's going I live a simple life and try not to get into drama which this is for sure.
If Phoenix are so close to order and order is harassing other zoner faction they should step up and say something to the order
(02-11-2015, 02:49 PM)The.Outlaw.Star Wrote: My opinion...? The Phoenix RP was awesome being way out in omicrons dealing with nomad stuff working with order all pretty cool stuff. I don't really know/understand everything that's going I live a simple life and try not to get into drama which this is for sure.
If Phoenix are so close to order and order is harassing other zoner faction they should step up and say something to the order
Give more hugs!
Unfortunately it seems that this is not what occurred, hence the sanction.
Honestly I feel that the Phoenix should have moved to Order IFF some time ago, their RP had been moving closer and closer to the Order and further away from the Zoners for some time.
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