[Knight] Industries Feedback Thread

[Apollon]

Personally Lyth, APM build ships for both BHG and Core.

BHG operates within House Space CORE as far as I am aware. Do NOT. What you are doing is oorp and is Lyth being Greedy.

Maybe you should take a few days off and away from Freelancer and think about what you are doing.

These gunboats are also built within Bretonian space not just in O-Rhu I think the Core system is.

Alright, I'll go on with you.

Eitherway, if what you say is true that gunboats are built within Bretonian space as in Sheffield and only Sheffield. giving those gunboats can only be given by the ones responsible for base. And are Blackpool industries responsible of Sheffield, Nope.

Basically, They can't build the ships. afaik, Sheffield belongs to BHG| not Blackpool.

APM manufactures all BHG and Core ships, and they hold contracts for house militaries and corporations.

IMO, you might have be drowning in your own tears of drama about Core, while you could have easily discussed the price instead of whining about it.

[Knight Industries]

I am not whinning about anything there Ghost and if I am not mistaken, you are not involved within this RP, so please stop posting in my feedback thread.

I am not saying the gunboats are ONLY built within Bretonian. They are also built within Core. I know that, everyone knows that.

I am not saying Sheffield is owned by Blackpool, because it is not. Sheffield is owned by BHG. Blackpool is owned by a Player.

Within RP Blackpool can built those ships because they have stated they can.

APM Manufactures BHG and Core ships correct. They may hold contracts for both companies. But what Knight are looking for is. Used and Second hand gunboats not APM Brand new Built ones. That is what you lot are mistaking.

So Ghost please stop posting in my feedback thread because this does not concern you and has nothing to do with you. You have no clue what is going on.

I am not drowning in tears infact. I am enjoying yours and Lyth's rage and greediness.

Knight have also tried to discuss the price with Lyth via PM but he reduced the price from 140 - 100 mill then expected us to go ingame and build EACH Ship and then fly them to House space and fix rep and get the correct ID.

I can find and have found a better offer. WITHIN RP and with better RP and more fun.


END OF DISCUSSION!

[Apollon]

Actually won't bother commenting on your mountain of rage there. But I want to confirm something to you; It does concern me as I'm part of The Core HC. gg

[Knight Industries]

There is not rage this side Ghost and like I said. End of Discussion so please do not reply to this thread anymore.

[Rebirth]

Awesum what I read here, lel. Anyways, Lyth do you really think even one group "APM" can supply BHG+Core with ships? I mean to Kusari/Liberty/Bretonia/Omicrons all at once? Do you really think DHC or Kruger or w/e makes the ships for the Rheinwehr get them from only one company? No, the parts come from all over sirius, get assembled by a company and then given to the Rheinwehr.

I highly doubt that a company that has only 1 Shipyard outside in nowhere can even nearly supply 'only' core with enough capitals as you described in the lore (see here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=125128 )

And anyways, how much roleplay does APM have? Most likely nothing. So many snubs the BHG has/orders would APM never be able to build.

So now think how realistic that all is, what you have written before. Also your prices, well. Not good - 140 million because someone wanted to RolePlay? And now you say HE MUST pay this fee there's no way around? You are telling him to drop a bounty on his faction if not? Is that the behaviour we should all have? I doubt that. We should be fair, dude.

Now because he ran to someone else you want to punish everyone for not buying them off you. I only say 'gg' to this. That's not cool, nor it's good. RP might be RP but what do you think who invented APM? Players, ye! So, because you invented everything as first one everything must go after you? Nothing that you don't like should happen? You are not a dev you do not decide such things. I don't see any problem in your APM lore writeup why I won't have any Blueprints

His writeup:

Code:

AP Manufacturing is a ship and weapons research and manufacturing company based within Omicron Rho. The company itself functions out of Alabama Shipyard, under the protection of The Core which own and control Omicron Rho.

The Alabama Shipyard is administered by AP Manufacturing, a diversified heavy industrial company specializing in shipbuilding, ship breaking, station construction, modular construction, civil and military engineering, renewable and project management. AP Manufacturing research, develop, construct and deconstruct the ships and equipment found within the AP line.

They export snubcraft (the Manta Very Heavy Fighter, the Hammerhead Heavy Fighter and the Sea Serpent Light Fighter) and gunboats (the Bottlenose Gunship and the Orca Gunboat) to the Bounty Hunters Guild who are avid buyers and users of this technology. The Bounty Hunters Guild then proceeds to use this technology within House Space and the Borderworlds against hostile criminal elements. It is not uncommon to see these ships also being sold to lawful House Space personnel.

As well as the ships above, AP Manufacturing also produces powerful Capital ships for exclusive use by The Core. The Core utilizes these in their conquest to fulfill their contracts within the Omicrons and the Edgeworlds. It is extremely rare to see AP Capital ships within the hands of anything but The Core.

AP Manufacturing also serves a secondary purpose as a small logistical division of The Core. They collect supplies, materials and other equipment to help assist The Core in their conquest.

It DOES NOT state that APM is the only source of BHG ships. There could be plenty of others as well.

[Lythrilux]

Personally Lyth, APM build ships for both BHG and Core.

BHG operates within House Space CORE as far as I am aware. Do NOT. What you are doing is oorp and is Lyth being Greedy.

Maybe you should take a few days off and away from Freelancer and think about what you are doing.

These gunboats are also built within Bretonian space not just in O-Rhu I think the Core system is.

O-Rhu is the name of a faction. It's Omicron Rho.
The Gunboats are not built in Bretonian space because there are no APM shipyards there.

Since when did BPI have blue prints to APM ship lines. They do not. Blackpool is not BPI. It is infact a BHG Base if I am not mistaken

Not really sure if I could say that's legitimate or not. They might have the blueprints, however would they have the means to construct the ships? Futhermore, they'd need to pass it through APM first to build the ships.

Within RP Blackpool can built those ships because they have stated they can.

I can state I have a tactical nuke aimed at Knight Industries HQ.

APM Manufactures BHG and Core ships correct. They may hold contracts for both companies. But what Knight are looking for is. Used and Second hand gunboats not APM Brand new Built ones. That is what you lot are mistaking.

Even if it's second hand, it still goes through APM. They need to keep track of their ships.
So Ghost please stop posting in my feedback thread because this does not concern you and has nothing to do with you. You have no clue what is going on.

Knight have also tried to discuss the price with Lyth via PM but he reduced the price from 140 - 100 mill then expected us to go ingame and build EACH Ship and then fly them to House space and fix rep and get the correct ID.

I can find and have found a better offer. WITHIN RP and with better RP and more fun.

END OF DISCUSSION!

You guys could've bartered with me some more, you know. I didn't say that it was the final offer.

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[Rebirth]

There are no multiple APM shipyards, you have just listed one and this is Alabama, q_q this one cannot nearly build all the ships required.

Edit in my transmission I've stated that my labels on the ships are not to be removed so, they are not from APM, the construction might be but they have labels & marks from BPH.

[Lythrilux]

Awesum what I read here, lel. Anyways, Lyth do you really think even one group "APM" can supply BHG+Core with ships? I mean to Kusari/Liberty/Bretonia/Omicrons all at once? Do you really think DHC or Kruger or w/e makes the ships for the Rheinwehr get them from only one company? No, the parts come from all over sirius, get assembled by a company and then given to the Rheinwehr.

I highly doubt that a company that has only 1 Shipyard outside in nowhere can even nearly supply 'only' core with enough capitals as you described in the lore (see here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=125128 )

And anyways, how much roleplay does APM have? Most likely nothing. So many snubs the BHG has/orders would APM never be able to build.

So now think how realistic that all is, what you have written before. Also your prices, well. Not good - 140 million because someone wanted to RolePlay? And now you say HE MUST pay this fee there's no way around? You are telling him to drop a bounty on his faction if not? Is that the behaviour we should all have? I doubt that. We should be fair, dude.

Now because he ran to someone else you want to punish everyone for not buying them off you. I only say 'gg' to this. That's not cool, nor it's good. RP might be RP but what do you think who invented APM? Players, ye! So, because you invented everything as first one everything must go after you? Nothing that you don't like should happen? I don't see any problem in your APM lore writeup why I won't have any Blueprints

His writeup:

Code:

AP Manufacturing is a ship and weapons research and manufacturing company based within Omicron Rho. The company itself functions out of Alabama Shipyard, under the protection of The Core which own and control Omicron Rho.

The Alabama Shipyard is administered by AP Manufacturing, a diversified heavy industrial company specializing in shipbuilding, ship breaking, station construction, modular construction, civil and military engineering, renewable and project management. AP Manufacturing research, develop, construct and deconstruct the ships and equipment found within the AP line.

They export snubcraft (the Manta Very Heavy Fighter, the Hammerhead Heavy Fighter and the Sea Serpent Light Fighter) and gunboats (the Bottlenose Gunship and the Orca Gunboat) to the Bounty Hunters Guild who are avid buyers and users of this technology. The Bounty Hunters Guild then proceeds to use this technology within House Space and the Borderworlds against hostile criminal elements. It is not uncommon to see these ships also being sold to lawful House Space personnel.

As well as the ships above, AP Manufacturing also produces powerful Capital ships for exclusive use by The Core. The Core utilizes these in their conquest to fulfill their contracts within the Omicrons and the Edgeworlds. It is extremely rare to see AP Capital ships within the hands of anything but The Core.

AP Manufacturing also serves a secondary purpose as a small logistical division of The Core. They collect supplies, materials and other equipment to help assist The Core in their conquest.

It DOES NOT state that APM is the only source of BHG ships. There could be plenty of others as well.

Lol, someone doesn't know how old APM is. They go all the way back to vanilla.
APM ships always go through APM. There is no other party involved.

Edit in my transmission I've stated that my labels on the ships are not to be removed so, they are not from APM, the construction might be but they have labels & marks from BPH.

But that doesn't make them BPH ships, does it? They're still APM ships, and that process would be considered theft anyway.

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[Rebirth]

Awesum what I read here, lel. Anyways, Lyth do you really think even one group "APM" can supply BHG+Core with ships? I mean to Kusari/Liberty/Bretonia/Omicrons all at once? Do you really think DHC or Kruger or w/e makes the ships for the Rheinwehr get them from only one company? No, the parts come from all over sirius, get assembled by a company and then given to the Rheinwehr.
I highly doubt that a company that has only 1 Shipyard outside in nowhere can even nearly supply 'only' core with enough capitals as you described in the lore (see here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=125128 )
And anyways, how much roleplay does APM have? Most likely nothing. So many snubs the BHG has/orders would APM never be able to build.
So now think how realistic that all is, what you have written before. Also your prices, well. Not good - 140 million because someone wanted to RolePlay? And now you say HE MUST pay this fee there's no way around? You are telling him to drop a bounty on his faction if not? Is that the behaviour we should all have? I doubt that. We should be fair, dude.
Now because he ran to someone else you want to punish everyone for not buying them off you. I only say 'gg' to this. That's not cool, nor it's good. RP might be RP but what do you think who invented APM? Players, ye! So, because you invented everything as first one everything must go after you? Nothing that you don't like should happen? I don't see any problem in your APM lore writeup why I won't have any Blueprints
His writeup:

Code:

AP Manufacturing is a ship and weapons research and manufacturing company based within Omicron Rho. The company itself functions out of Alabama Shipyard, under the protection of The Core which own and control Omicron Rho.
The Alabama Shipyard is administered by AP Manufacturing, a diversified heavy industrial company specializing in shipbuilding, ship breaking, station construction, modular construction, civil and military engineering, renewable and project management. AP Manufacturing research, develop, construct and deconstruct the ships and equipment found within the AP line.
They export snubcraft (the Manta Very Heavy Fighter, the Hammerhead Heavy Fighter and the Sea Serpent Light Fighter) and gunboats (the Bottlenose Gunship and the Orca Gunboat) to the Bounty Hunters Guild who are avid buyers and users of this technology. The Bounty Hunters Guild then proceeds to use this technology within House Space and the Borderworlds against hostile criminal elements. It is not uncommon to see these ships also being sold to lawful House Space personnel.
As well as the ships above, AP Manufacturing also produces powerful Capital ships for exclusive use by The Core. The Core utilizes these in their conquest to fulfill their contracts within the Omicrons and the Edgeworlds. It is extremely rare to see AP Capital ships within the hands of anything but The Core.
AP Manufacturing also serves a secondary purpose as a small logistical division of The Core. They collect supplies, materials and other equipment to help assist The Core in their conquest.

It DOES NOT state that APM is the only source of BHG ships. There could be plenty of others as well.

Lol, someone doesn't know how old APM is. They go all the way back to vanilla.
APM ships always go through APM. There is no other party involved.

Ye, I don't know. But this doesn't change the fact that there is only TWO shipyards producing all ships for Core+BHG in all over sirius. I don't think this makes any great sense inRP, no offence. I just mean... I would let the BHGs in House Space build their own Snubs with Blueprints from APM, in this case.

[Knight Industries]

I have said End of Discussions so end it now. If you want to rage between each other, take it else were.