(03-17-2016, 07:11 AM)Sonja Wrote: Jeremy Hunter wants to roleplay a 13 year old Order admiral (or was that Tenacity? I don't know), and I have an SRP legacy character with superpowers. I don't think anybody is innocent of some immersion breaking roleplay.
We all play here because we want to, and we want to for different reasons. Telling some people that their reasons are wrong is not great, because that's incredibly hard to justify.
I've actually never roleplayed as an Order Admiral prior to becoming part of the Order| Overwatch, and even then have never had a 13 year old as an admiral. I think that misconception can be filed under the notion I ever led the Order heh.
And I agree with the final paragraph I quoted, as it is hard to justify telling someone their rp sucks. A lot of it is incredibly subjective, and I personally am glad Cody Faulkner is taking a lot of criticism to heart and working to incorporate a lot of suggestions this very thread has given to his roleplay.
You have my apologies Jeremy. I'm almost sure now that it was Tenacity with Katlee Staite, or a similar name to that. All the same, it was more a reference to a common trope that I've seen, and I'm sure you and others have seen too - in fact, I'm guilty of something like this as well, with a 37 year old [LN] Admiral back in the day.
Nobody brought it up on the forums or personally with me though, despite the fact that High Command at such a tender age is unheard of in any large real world conventional military force.
It makes you wonder what will be brought up next and highlighted as "bad roleplay" in the future, if this particular issue is put to bed.
(03-17-2016, 09:44 PM)Sonja Wrote: You have my apologies Jeremy. I'm almost sure now that it was Tenacity with Katlee Staite, or a similar name to that. All the same, it was more a reference to a common trope that I've seen, and I'm sure you and others have seen too - in fact, I'm guilty of something like this as well, with a 37 year old [LN] Admiral back in the day.
Nobody brought it up on the forums or personally with me though, despite the fact that High Command at such a tender age is unheard of in any large real world conventional military force.
It makes you wonder what will be brought up next and highlighted as "bad roleplay" in the future, if this particular issue is put to bed.
Personally, in a time of war as seen when you had a 37 year old Admiral, it doesn't exactly look out of place. People die all the time, ranks have to be filled and some people are thrown into command at ery young ages. It is the problem with war and that's how I saw it with any young person commanding, period.
Also, this is science fiction in a fantasy world of aliens and the universes sole freelancer saving the universe. There is plenty of room for make believe, as long as it does in fact make sense. Robinson being almost a war prodigy gaining command? I can see it.
In the Order, people of unconventional yet believable age is more accepted. They get who they can and give those with that spark the rank. I doubt Kaylee was 13 st first but I could be wrong.
Now, I'll be fair: I have a younger than standard character in appearance and personality only. Going by the time line she's much older than she really appears but acts like a 13 year old. She's more of a comical character of mine, but over time I've been trying to make her less comical and more or less...real. I guess.
So that could be where mthe 13 year old Order anything came from, even though she's never gone above Veteran Agent.
Actually here my problem was more with the "haters gonna hate" bullcrap mentality, which besides being stupid as F can also be used in any way convenient, and
"Do they have a problem with me forcing my furry character on them? Oh well, it's still their problem, not mine, I'll do it anyways."
can just as easily be countered with
"Do they have a problem with me systematically hunting them down for roleplaying furries? Oh well, it's still their problem, not mine, I'll do it anyways."
I don't think anybody sane would think things like this lead to a healthy community. This mentality reminds me more of 'Murica than anything healthy.
the only way I see a 13 year old, becoming an admiral, is if he or she is the son of a dictator.
Then he could say, "daddy, I want to be an admiral" and it can be done.
Thankfully, in case of Cody, I apply changes into roleplay as Jeremy pointed out - and I should not be (someone liked that word, can't forget who) "bombing" them with fuzzy thing in a comms. The problem with entire idea was that characters gave himself right away, which was not really smart I admit, because LSF and Order and whoever else would be very interested into vivisection.
The most problematic thing is that community does not really want to accept is the fact, now speaking about probability scheme, that we do not know in 100% if in real life hybrids will be anything more than a speechless bipedal animals bound to react to simple orders. In real life, there are already experiments regarding animal-animal hybrids and the scenario I've proposed is actually more fact than fiction, albeit given how poor technology we do have in our modern world nothing can be achieved right now - but then, we are already able to mix different genome.
In case of Cody, the facility took yet another way instead of creating a hybrid child, knowing there is no full possibility to achieve a mentally stable creation - I leave this part blank, because I'm sure if either the tests were done with fatal results or they did want to save time. There's yet another possibility, also allowed in theoretical science - moving conciousness onto silicon chip or/and into with customly-designed hybrid body.
In this case, Cody Faulkner was a mere Rheinlander, but that part is known to you: Vrolick Syndrome and no hopes to cure it making him actually unable to fulfill any serious job. What he does? He joins the experiment with undercover being experimental medical treatment (well, not really far from truth to be honest), being prepared to the process of moving his conciousness - which, again according to the theoretical medicine, is more copying from original source rather than actual cut and paste action. It happens nonetheless and "second" Cody's mind is transferred into new hybrid body - with "old" Cody being either left to die on streets of Stuttgart or killed right away in order to keep secrecy of experiments.
The entire process, as Dr Whitehall stated somewhere in the roleplay, is "not yet perfected" and Cody not only suffers several mental problems, but also his new body - despite being one of the best attempts up to date - having some issues that must be constantly cured with medicine very similiar to the one given after organ transplantation.