(05-07-2016, 10:59 AM)Darku Wrote: It's true that we most recently fought in the Omicron Delta. But does that mean we/corsair should not go there? Once our conversation earlier in the game I even told you Delta is not just for Core, still has The Order, Zoner, and Corsairs. Yaren stations do not have in our/corsair possession does not mean corsairs can not come, or fight. and it is not about who is good or bad, it's just about the attitude core has. How many battles you were present ? I really did not see you just only at some nomad missions. We had encountered many times but we had no fight between us, they ganked us maybe you don't want to admit it. Now look at those logs, happened 1 week ago. We wanted to maintain the balance but I do admit not all give that but we tired of letting them gather more fleets but got no reply !
Quote:[27.04.2016 20:32:39] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: try not to gank if possible
[27.04.2016 20:32:56] Del.Molla: //any more bs coming from core side ? (no answer from core)
[27.04.2016 20:35:34] Del.Molla: lol, gank ? :|
[27.04.2016 20:35:37] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: don't gank it
[27.04.2016 20:35:57] Del.Molla: that's why core ganks u
Now, how many times we/Corsair visit in Omicron Rho ? We did when officially Core had a POB near Alabama Station, I bet you weren't even around that moment. Now, Gamma part; How many times Core comes in Corsair home system ? many time, at least we don't visit Core home system. Go make order/corsair and I can guarantee you gank squad will come after you.
I have to give my two cents to this. Its just false to say Core ganks all the time especially the last days. Most of the time we are outnumbered and even when the fights go more and more people pile in. Not to mention attacks first by the one army then the other directly after in an attempt not to break ID lines but still to overpower.
Shurely we have killed people who pile in an already done battle with the whole force that was present. Mainly because its a very bad move to throw in one group after the other to give the others the littlest chance to win you can manage. And thats also the reason why mostly people begin to log if we have a fight of any sorts. Because normally theres a mothball of people pouring in the battles. If its then not like this people begin again with their "Core only ganks" attitude.
To get your examples of Gamma raids. The last Gamma raid we came with one BS and 3 battlecruisers. We were greeted by 9 mormillos.
I dont call this a Core gank
(05-07-2016, 11:54 AM)Gagadug the Duck Wrote: Most of the time we are outnumbered
Yeah, well no. If we are speaking of Delta then Core is usually the attacking side and have all time it needs to gather forces at Yaren. Zoner side probably have some more numbers at some point, but from what I've seen it's always some gunboats and bombers against the things like battleships and destroyers so. Nephilims are usually not numerous (around two most of them time) and they dying really (really) quick. Corsairs and AI are coming not that often, SCRA presence is more or less stable.
Disclaimer: I'm talking about only from I've seen myself and obviously I wasn't there most of the time so this observations can be false.
just wow 9 ? were you drank ? and It is Murillo and there were 3 Murillo and 1 legate. From this moment I can completely count how much Core actually lie all the time, people can lie but log ? it can't
Quote:[27.04.2016 20:22:45] PrimeEvil: another murm lol
[27.04.2016 20:22:48] El.Tamalon: what u guys need ? [Me]
[27.04.2016 20:22:55] Huan.Romero: SNUBS
[27.04.2016 20:22:58] PrimeEvil: if u can log a snub
[27.04.2016 20:23:06] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: they changed to bullheads
[27.04.2016 20:23:10] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: now they have 3 bullheads
[27.04.2016 20:23:13] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: and 1 mako
[27.04.2016 20:23:23] El.Tamalon: ok logging snub then
[27.04.2016 20:26:53] Del.Molla: how many cap do we have ?
[27.04.2016 20:26:57] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: a lot
[27.04.2016 20:27:05] Del.Molla: number plz
[27.04.2016 20:27:20] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: 3murmi and 1 legate that are at Skiros
Even I said we tired of letting them gather more fleets but got no reply ! also, not everyone won't give fair fight since Core didn't in past and how can another part will ? but we tried to maintain the balance
Simply have a look at Seafalcons video. All that happened in about a 3/4 hour. Counting forces is up to you.
And it was not different the other days.
The Zoners are not numerous but they are not the ones I meant. I talked about Corsair/SCRA/AI/OC/and whatever else decides to visit Delta atm.
And if you want to count the forces dont forget their battleships. I dont know where the myth comes from Core was the only side using them in force.
(05-07-2016, 12:12 PM)Darku Wrote: just wow 9 ? were you drank ? and It is Murillo and there were 3 Murillo and 1 legate. From this moment I can completely count how much Core actually lie all the time, people can lie but log ? it can't
Quote:[27.04.2016 20:22:45] PrimeEvil: another murm lol
[27.04.2016 20:22:48] El.Tamalon: what u guys need ? [Me]
[27.04.2016 20:22:55] Huan.Romero: SNUBS
[27.04.2016 20:22:58] PrimeEvil: if u can log a snub
[27.04.2016 20:23:06] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: they changed to bullheads
[27.04.2016 20:23:10] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: now they have 3 bullheads
[27.04.2016 20:23:13] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: and 1 mako
[27.04.2016 20:23:23] El.Tamalon: ok logging snub then
[27.04.2016 20:26:53] Del.Molla: how many cap do we have ?
[27.04.2016 20:26:57] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: a lot
[27.04.2016 20:27:05] Del.Molla: number plz
[27.04.2016 20:27:20] Falcon.Negro[TBH]: 3murmi and 1 legate that are at Skiros
Even I said we tired of letting them gather more fleets but got no reply ! also, not everyone won't give fair fight since Core didn't in past and how can another part will ? but we tried to maintain the balance
I have no screen to prove how the fight went. If you say so you can have this opinion. But it were shurely more than 4.
Actually ill stop this here, too since its the same people replying with the same attitude to us. If you hate us just look another way. I dont care what RP you do either.
(05-07-2016, 12:12 PM)Gagadug the Duck Wrote: Simply have a look at Seafalcons video. All that happened in about a 3/4 hour. Counting forces is up to you.
And it was not different the other days.
The Zoners are not numerous but they are not the ones I meant. I talked about Corsair/SCRA/AI/OC/and whatever else decides to visit Delta atm.
And if you want to count the forces dont forget their battleships. I dont know where the myth comes from Core was the only side using them in force.
I was there when seafalcon video happened. Core destroyed Sair fleet by hiding beyond and planet breaking their formation and coordination, that was really nice, I've never seen such tactics before. Then Core logged gunboats and snubs and pilled on SCRA bombers, when SCRA bombers reached the Freeport and got covered by 2 Nephilims Core logged back into 4-5 Makos and blow them up.
well, now you ignoring my reply cause I just flesh out how you lied ? about Delta part the last and final wave Corsair did , we managed to gather some cap fleets but even we were outnumbered and what actually Core did? Damn shiki ninja'd also Core had 12 Mako & how many time Corsair actually won ? It is not about hate, already said it's just about Core attitude.
There was 8-9 Makos, but one of the sair ships dived into the planet for some reason, numbers were more or less the same. That fight looked fair and it was deserved tactical victory though, there is nothing to complain about. Now Core have even more caps though, after the Bastile thing. Core playerbase is huge and cry about the Core being outnumbered and ganked... well false I guess.
Firstly im giving you this to show im not ignorant of anyone ...
We done even have 12 Makos to field. With 10 we had maximum capacity. That you didnt win is not due to numbers but was in that case caused by the tactic we used.
And about the attitude. I cant recall to ever have done anything to one of the people that now attack the Core. If you dont ever want to fight dont play a space shooter. If we would attack Gamma every second day with a capfleet i would understand that. But our raids are not that numerous.
If you criticise our/my attitude consider yours aslwell please. We are not a bunch of peeps. We also are here to have fun.
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