(05-15-2016, 11:57 AM)Omicron Wrote: Will you set yourself hostile to Order or I have to do something myself to make the point?
Our diplomacy is not the same as the Order. It is a one-sided hostility situation, hence placing the Order under unfriendly. We won't actively shoot you, or dock on your bases (Bar one incident with one unaware guy). You've made a point to be completely unwilling and uninterested to make an attempt at interacting positively with us on Skype. It doesn't change the fact that we still aren't interested in shooting you guys, as much as you'd want an Order-Auxesia war, we don't, hence Unfriendly.
It's a shame, really. I was actually looking forward to interacting with the Order, instead of seeing them sit in Mu for hours.
(05-15-2016, 11:57 AM)Omicron Wrote: Will you set yourself hostile to Order or I have to do something myself to make the point?
Our diplomacy is not the same as the Order. It is a one-sided hostility situation, hence placing the Order under unfriendly. We won't actively shoot you, or dock on your bases (Bar one incident with one unaware guy). You've made a point to be completely unwilling and uninterested to make an attempt at interacting positively with us on Skype. It doesn't change the fact that we still aren't interested in shooting you guys, as much as you'd want an Order-Auxesia war, we don't, hence Unfriendly.
It's a shame, really. I was actually looking forward to interacting with the Order, instead of seeing them sit in Mu for hours.
That's not really how diplomacy works, if a faction keeps showing aggressive or hostile actions against you, you will have no option but to share the same hostility. Otherwise, you'd be draining your power quite quickly.
(05-15-2016, 11:57 AM)Omicron Wrote: Will you set yourself hostile to Order or I have to do something myself to make the point?
Our diplomacy is not the same as the Order. It is a one-sided hostility situation, hence placing the Order under unfriendly. We won't actively shoot you, or dock on your bases (Bar one incident with one unaware guy). You've made a point to be completely unwilling and uninterested to make an attempt at interacting positively with us on Skype. It doesn't change the fact that we still aren't interested in shooting you guys, as much as you'd want an Order-Auxesia war, we don't, hence Unfriendly.
It's a shame, really. I was actually looking forward to interacting with the Order, instead of seeing them sit in Mu for hours.
That's not really how diplomacy works, if a faction keeps showing aggressive or hostile actions against you, you will have no option but to share the same hostility. Otherwise, you'd be draining your power quite quickly.
We'd be draining more resources actively attacking the Order than we would responding in self-defense, which is currently the case. Sending out assault wings is wasting resources. Our forces being attacked and responding in suit? Less damaging to resource use than diverting focus to more unnecessary shooting.
(05-15-2016, 11:57 AM)Omicron Wrote: Will you set yourself hostile to Order or I have to do something myself to make the point?
Our diplomacy is not the same as the Order. It is a one-sided hostility situation, hence placing the Order under unfriendly. We won't actively shoot you, or dock on your bases (Bar one incident with one unaware guy). You've made a point to be completely unwilling and uninterested to make an attempt at interacting positively with us on Skype. It doesn't change the fact that we still aren't interested in shooting you guys, as much as you'd want an Order-Auxesia war, we don't, hence Unfriendly.
It's a shame, really. I was actually looking forward to interacting with the Order, instead of seeing them sit in Mu for hours.
That's not really how diplomacy works, if a faction keeps showing aggressive or hostile actions against you, you will have no option but to share the same hostility. Otherwise, you'd be draining your power quite quickly.
We'd be draining more resources actively attacking the Order than we would responding in self-defense, which is currently the case. Sending out assault wings is wasting resources. Our forces being attacked and responding in suit? Less damaging to resource use than diverting focus to more unnecessary shooting.
You'd also be draining more resources when you're actively being attacked by Order and you still don't do anything about it. Both of us know that Auxesia can't and will not go on a full-scale war with Order for obvious reasons. But there are plenty of other methods to clear up the diplomacy with a faction that may be hunting you down in the future.
Not to mention, hostile doesn't really mean "At War". Being 'Hostile' means that you are very tempted to attack any vessel of the faction if spotted, and will ignore it if a bigger threat is present. 'At War' is self-explanatory. Classifying a faction as 'Unfriendly' basically means that you're cautious towards them, which wouldn't make sense if you're actually declared as an enemy by the opponent faction.
(05-15-2016, 11:57 AM)Omicron Wrote: Will you set yourself hostile to Order or I have to do something myself to make the point?
Our diplomacy is not the same as the Order. It is a one-sided hostility situation, hence placing the Order under unfriendly. We won't actively shoot you, or dock on your bases (Bar one incident with one unaware guy). You've made a point to be completely unwilling and uninterested to make an attempt at interacting positively with us on Skype. It doesn't change the fact that we still aren't interested in shooting you guys, as much as you'd want an Order-Auxesia war, we don't, hence Unfriendly.
It's a shame, really. I was actually looking forward to interacting with the Order, instead of seeing them sit in Mu for hours.
That's not really how diplomacy works, if a faction keeps showing aggressive or hostile actions against you, you will have no option but to share the same hostility. Otherwise, you'd be draining your power quite quickly.
We'd be draining more resources actively attacking the Order than we would responding in self-defense, which is currently the case. Sending out assault wings is wasting resources. Our forces being attacked and responding in suit? Less damaging to resource use than diverting focus to more unnecessary shooting.
You'd also be draining more resources when you're actively being attacked by Order and you still don't do anything about it. Both of us know that Auxesia can't and will not go on a full-scale war with Order for obvious reasons. But there are plenty of other methods to clear up the diplomacy with a faction that may be hunting you down in the future.
Not to mention, hostile doesn't really mean "At War". Being 'Hostile' means that you are very tempted to attack any vessel of the faction if spotted, and will ignore it if a bigger threat is present. 'At War' is self-explanatory. Classifying a faction as 'Unfriendly' basically means that you're cautious towards them, which wouldn't make sense if you're actually declared as an enemy by the opponent faction.
We're cautious around them. We aren't tempted to shoot them. They declared us hostile, not the other way around. We're aware and are planning to make attempts to repair the diplomacy between Aux and the Order, hence the Unfriendly stance. No, we're not moving them to hostile, because we aren't going to shoot them if we encounter them. If they shoot us, we'll defend ourselves. Being declared an enemy doesn't mean we're going to turn around and say "Screw you too, enemy", we're going to continue on as we've done, avoiding hostilities and defending ourselves as of late if they even occur.
Oh yeah probably same applies for the Coalition, even though neutral pact up in Delta because of Zoners we still have a past of betrayal in omega-49 which the Coalition clearly didn't forget. So yeah hostile, thanks.
(05-15-2016, 06:25 PM)Commissar SnakeLancer™ Wrote: Oh yeah probably same applies for the Coalition, even though neutral pact up in Delta because of Zoners we still have a past of betrayal in omega-49 which the Coalition clearly didn't forget. So yeah hostile, thanks.
[04.05.2016 17:34:42] SCRA|CPW-Trotsky: Garcia: Auxesia, I have a message to relay to you.
[04.05.2016 17:35:06] SCRA|CPW-Trotsky: Garcia: You are still considered enemies of the Coalition however we have decided to suspend hostilities until after the crisis
[04.05.2016 17:35:20] SCRA|CPW-Trotsky: is settled. Depending on future events and actions we can negotiate terms to settle hostilities.
[04.05.2016 17:35:42] SCRA|CPW-Trotsky: However, those terms would involve some sort of compensation for your disruption of a few vital activities.
[04.05.2016 17:36:01] SCRA|CPW-Trotsky: Garcia: I trust you understand the situation, many within the Coalition are very angry. I am however, speaking well of you
[04.05.2016 17:36:16] SCRA|CPW-Trotsky: Garcia: Given your recent aid to both the Revolutionary Army, Myself and the Zoners.
[04.05.2016 17:36:55] SCRA|CPW-Trotsky: Garcia: I trust I have been abundantely clear. Safe travels for now.
This right here, Snake, is the main reason The SCRA are currently in the Unfriendly zone. Future potential for rectifying relations as stated above in the logs, hence why we've not been actively killing one another.
Exactly. Just wanted to point out because obviously once official the relations will change anyway so maybe you wanted to pre-set it if your ID gets into game then, so you don't have to deal afterwards with it.
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