WE DID IT REDDIT!!!

[nOmnomnOm]

Here you go again to insult back roleplay that happens with core.
You have done the same with all the roleplay that had happened as far as I know since the delta thing began.
It was utterly cringe - worthy to see you like that and you still keep doing it.

Only reason you have some backup in all this is that you were banned while the stuff was going on. I wonder how the roleplay would have been is you were not strapped down and forced to look at it.

And now you say "oh it was not that bad". Sure sure. But before and even recently you have been unhappy with results to the point that you post hate on other feedbacks.

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[Lythrilux]

Do you mean the part where you denied the idea of Zoners having any significance in the Omicrons and antagonizing them had little to no effect on Core's economy?

Well I mean do they? I'm not trying to be snide and excuse me if it comes across at that, but do they have any significance in the modern Omicrons? Maybe to more factions than others, but I am against the 'Zoners are essential [to Core]' meme because it has little basis to back it up.

And maybe if Zoners bothered to do some roleplay to give themselves some signifiance in the Omicrons, maybe things would be different. It really doesn't help that OSI and CoF pretty much blantantly ignored every single one of my comms before the Delta stuff.

Here you go again to insult back roleplay that happens with core.
You have done the same with all the roleplay that had happened as far as I know since the delta thing began.
It was utterly cringe - worthy to see you like that and you still keep doing it.

Only reason you have some backup in all this is that you were banned while the stuff was going on. I wonder how the roleplay would have been is you were not strapped down and forced to look at it.

And now you say "oh it was not that bad". Sure sure. But before and even recently you have been unhappy with results to the point that you post hate on other feedbacks.

Oh yeah dude. So cringe man. Bar the IMG Feedback which you mention - which was entirely justified and believe me I am not the only one who believed it was an attempt to power IMG into things, both within in outside my faction - and Core HC is now contemplating giving Jack more leeway again provided we're at least more informed of the roleplay specifically. I am not against the notion of roleplay, but excuse me if I have some skeptism sometimes.

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[Doria]

Well, at least from the OSI part, it is entirely my fault. Lately I have little to no time for disco, and wasn't able to make an answer to those comms, even after you listed them on our feedback. To be true, I was actually writing an answer to the building new ships one when the mess at FP11 took place. I'm not one to ignore any RP.

I just want to voice here my view that, the reason you get so much opposition to your faction is because you try to impose your views to others (and I mean ooRPly, nothing wrong with core "domination" roleplay), instead of try and work together. At least that is how it looks like from the outside.

Like, "I have a plan for Delta, let's implement it", but you do that without talking to the Zoners and Order to see what the factions think about the idea. Because one thing is "pure" RP, another very different is RP that changes the mod. It's usually best to talk beforehand to avoid ooRP hate later.

[Sombs]

Can't we just stop this here and take the comms, RP-boards and ingame inRP-actions as RP as they are without trying to find the ooRP hate everywhere? I actually find it a funny idea from CoF, inRP, to mirror what Core did with the "You can legally live here". Both sides have their justifications to do so, and I doubt neither Lyth nor Drrobe posted their things mindlessly in the RP-sections when they did it. The only thing I doubt was what the response was in Skype, about "let's bomb it with funny names". If it's done with an okay quality, it can be fun. What I saw yet, was borderlining.

Seriously, while the feedback threads are now like politically discussions where people don't say "we made a mistake there" or "we may have overdone it" are rephrased like "Mistakes were made" or "We look forward to give all participants a better experience next time". Look at all the heat those feedback posts produce. No side will be happy when it comes to this topic, because no side thinks that they did wrong. Roleplaywise, noone did, when it comes to the forum RP so far, if you ask me. Core did many comm-responses and did it in their behavior, not admitting weaknesses to the outside, like politicians would. CoF didn't do anything wrong, neither didn't all the other factions who reacted in a solidary way to all the events. If they break their usual stereotypical behavior, then let them have the consequences they would have gotten also in a inRP way instead of posting heated feedbacks that just result in endless discussions where more and more people join, pick their sides, pick quotes, take things out of context, compare things with other things that happened months and years ago.

Is it really worth all that? We had some really nice things with this event. Much QQ was caused, that's right, and not every decision made was the wisest. But, guys, it's a game and the most of us try to enjoy it. And the most of us aren't actual politicians or admirals outgame. Most people here are just young guys, some a bit older.

[Lythrilux]

Like, "I have a plan for Delta, let's implement it", but you do that without talking to the Zoners and Order to see what the factions think about the idea. Because one thing is "pure" RP, another very different is RP that changes the mod. It's usually best to talk beforehand to avoid ooRP hate later.

The Delta stuff was mostly spontaneous and I had initially intended to do hostilities with planning in mind alongisde the relevant factions. But your point is noted, and for that reason I'll list below our 'action plan' for the future in regards to Delta. Additional transparency is also good:

Nauru Docking Ring Trade Event I w/ USI, DSE and Ageira IDs (planned with Ageira/Liberty)
>Buffed trade route for Lib Corp IDs. Cargo piracy oppertunities for unlawful and quasi-lawful IDs

Nauru Docking Ring Combat Event I w/ Core and AI IDs (planned with PRIME)
>4,000,00 per kill on respective IDs in order to add a backdrop to the above trade event.

Nauru Docking Ring Trade Event II w/ USI, DSE and Ageira IDs (planned with Ageira/Liberty)
>Buffed trade route for Lib Corp IDs. Cargo piracy oppertunities for unlawful and quasi-lawful IDs

Nauru Docking Ring Combat Event II w/ Core and Corsair IDs (planned with TBH)
>4,000,00 per kill on respective IDs in order to add a backdrop to the above trade event.

Nauru Docking Ring Trade Event III w/ USI, DSE, Ageira, Core IDs (planned with Ageira/Liberty)
>Buffed trade route for Lib Corp and Core IDs. Cargo piracy oppertunities for unlawful and quasi-lawful IDs

Nauru Docking Ring Combat Event III w/ Core and Nomad IDs (planned with K'Hara)
>4,000,00 per kill on respective IDs in order to add a backdrop to the above trade event.

Yaren Upgrade Event w/ (not sure about what IDs to have now in light of the Delta drama, original plan was to have Zoner IDs get involved but it will probably have to shift to something else. Maybe Junker IDs?)
>Buffed trade route with server commodity delivered to Yaren.

Omicron 99/Iota Farming Event w/ Core, Order and Nomad IDs
>This is hard to explain in a single line. Think of the mercenary or dog-tag gamemodes in FPS games.

Unfortunately however recently the status of all these plugin events have been moved to indefinite, even though there was months of planning with factions (I really do apologise if I should have consulted more people though, and if you want to chime in feel free to send a PM) and dev approval, due to the admin team. Apparently weed-related, DROPs and GRN/LN events that are made on the fly without prior planning are more important.

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[Jack_Henderson]

Lyth, I like your drive and even though I think that it is a bit too much, I would suggest doing some of these events on your own. Cargo events are of course cooler via plugin but they can also be done without any outside involvement. A +1000 credits per unit bonus draws players who like the rp or want to support your side in the conflict, a +2000 even draws normal uninvolved traders in my experience. Just invest some money and do it. If it is not happening soon, the time window closes.

[Zoner Freeport Network]

As discussed on skype with Lyth regarding this post:

[10:13:07 AM]: It's supposed to be inRP satirical. Core made the Zoner Registry board, claiming Omicrons for themselves. Zoners see that transmission, laugh and go "Are you serious?". Since there are other Core indies who have stayed away from the conflict/actually written comms to Zoners saying "We don't agree with the actions of those people". So knowing there are Core members who don't agree with the main Core force, making that comm is both to show how ludicrous Zoners feel that Core would claim it, and to hit home that the Omicrons aren't governed, aren't going to be another "house". It's meant to show how ludicrous the Core asking for a registry would be. Something I see entirely within the realm of Zoners doing, to make the point that you should not have to register to be in the Omicrons, that they are not to be claimed.

It's like the Lane Hackers making that Sirius News and Commerce thread about IND a year or so ago. You remember that, right?

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=125826

I can promise you (Not trying to make an excuse) that it was not intended as an ooRP troll, but was something inRP Zoners would definitely do to show how ridiculous it is to have a "Zoner registry".
[10:16:30 AM] Luc E-W: ah i see
[10:16:44 AM] Luc E-W: the use of the faction tag in it made it seem a lot more lulzy
[10:16:46 AM] Luc E-W: but i understand

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[PKPower]

I really, REALLY hate to post in here again about a negative experience, but I do not think that this is acceptable from a roleplay perspective. For a faction that has already been criticized for having roleplay take a back seat position to pure capspam PvP i think this is kind of not supporive. I was being told that the Core was trying to have RP take a higher priority, but then I'm having encounters litke this one, where I stated TWICE that I do not have hostile intentions and was shot regardless.
Remember, that this post is just regarding the RP aspect of the encounter. It is obvious that the two attacking vessels just came to Omicron Kappa to shoot me. I did not have fun, and this is why:

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[18.05.2016 23:40:11] Core|WV-Olympius: Romanov:We are reading a PRIME 9klicks.
[18.05.2016 23:40:16] 2016-05-18 23:40:21 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:40:16] Core|WV-Olympius: Romanov:We are reading a IRG Also.
[18.05.2016 23:40:29] 2016-05-18 23:40:34 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:40:29] PRIME|Progenitor: :: <request> "Core|WV-Olympus" {define} [routine] ::
[18.05.2016 23:40:53] 2016-05-18 23:40:58 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:40:53] WV-Vindicta: target selected prepare hostile manovures i want that ai in a baggy
[18.05.2016 23:40:59] 2016-05-18 23:41:04 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:40:59] IRG|Quetzalcoatl: Brad: And here I thought it was going to be a nice evening
[18.05.2016 23:41:03] 2016-05-18 23:41:08 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:41:03] WV-Vindicta: guns priming prepare to fire
[18.05.2016 23:41:23] 2016-05-18 23:41:28 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:41:23] WV-Vindicta: target is not responding
[18.05.2016 23:41:26] 2016-05-18 23:41:31 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:41:26] Core|WV-Olympius: Romanov:Not yet Vindicta.
[18.05.2016 23:41:35] 2016-05-18 23:41:40 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:41:35] PRIME|Progenitor: :: <statement> [unit] =/= {equipped} [combat_maneuvers] ::
[18.05.2016 23:41:35] 2016-05-18 23:41:41 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:41:35] WV-Vindicta: make it do something
[18.05.2016 23:42:00] 2016-05-18 23:42:05 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:00] Core|WV-Olympius: Romanov:Is this thing just not working?
[18.05.2016 23:42:12] 2016-05-18 23:42:17 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:12] Core|WV-Olympius: Romanov:Is there any power going to this AI.
[18.05.2016 23:42:21] 2016-05-18 23:42:26 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:21] WV-Vindicta: it must be receving the windows 201999 upgrade
[18.05.2016 23:42:21] 2016-05-18 23:42:26 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:21] Core|WV-Olympius: Romanov:If not, prepare all weapons and take it down.
[18.05.2016 23:42:22] 2016-05-18 23:42:27 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:22] PRIME|Progenitor: :: <statement> [weapon_systms] = {disabled} ::
[18.05.2016 23:42:33] 2016-05-18 23:42:38 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:33] WV-Vindicta: fire
[18.05.2016 23:42:45] 2016-05-18 23:42:50 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:45] Core|WV-Olympius: Romanov:You are clear to engage. Take it down.
[18.05.2016 23:42:57] 2016-05-18 23:43:02 SMT
[18.05.2016 23:42:57] Death: PRIME|Progenitor has died

Both vessels gave me enough time to react and provided sufficient roleplay. But it was also appearent that I was RPing with the present IRG vessel at the time. I just chose to not react.
In conclusion all I want to say is that the Core ruined an RP encounter and that it was not enjoyable for me.

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[Lythrilux]

Since the Zoner stuff has calmed down, there's a fair few ships we need to start de-tagging. But otherwise it's a bit sad that Olympius and the indie were not wary of the roleplay you were conducting, therefore I'll have a word with them.

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[PKPower]

Thank you. That was all I could ask for.