Players Sanctioned: Lots of Order and 5th

[sindroms]

I understand that, but keeping track of RP-related alliances is very problematic for us as Administrators and the server population as players. If you want to develop the ability to ally with the Order primary fleet, please consider sending a (mutual) request to amend your ID to do so, provided you still have of the roleplay that lead to such a turn of events. Until then, please keep within the limitations of your respective IDs - especially when it comes to PVP.

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[Shizune]

Given that I've been asked to post here. This is heavily a revenge post. I won't state names, but I recall back in September that people mentioned, due to Kalh attacking them, they'd hunt him down all the way out in Penny.

First things first however. Yes, you do go the logs, I don't disagree to that at all. But I can at least provide the RP reason why the Order and 5th were out there. As you can see in the post, the ship was damaged so I logged the Tombstone which was a recon ship.

The whole thing came down to that 5 players logged that filed this report and went to Penny to kill Kalh out of self revenge and hate.

As you can see by the posts, 5th and Order were working together to recover a damaged ship. Here's what I want the admins to review first. While 5th and Order might of worked together, why is it the people, who filed this report, went from Magellan all the way to Penny after Kalh logged. I jumped in under cloak to see Aux engaged with 5th, WHO was there because:
1: His ship was damaged
2: We were there as we were evacuating Kalhs ship
3: His ship was damaged and 5th were called up BY the Order to go in and recover it. However the second Kalh logged, as overhead by others mentioning it, the hostile players logged and moved to Penny to 'hunt him down'. While I won't disclose names for trial by forum reasons
4: I get we might not work together, but there was MORE then enough RP backing as to why we were there, against a common foe, who also at the end: Brought Hellfire Legion and Xenos - Hellfire MD - Order MD

[sindroms]

This is an interesting turn of events. I hope you understand that we processed the report with the information that we had. I will bring this up with the rest of the staff and re-evaluate whether or not forum roleplay is able to override ID rules. It is, as you might understand, a slightly tricky subject due to the gates we open depending on the decision that will come out of it.

If you have any more information to add - both sides. Please do.

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[Kalhmera]

I have been asked to post here considering i am the reason both Order and 5th| forces joined forces...

Looking at my "Approved" SRP.. This shows why Order| and 5th| forces joining together.

Saving the Amenhotep was the goal... and unfortunatly Auxesia decided to trash the party and sadly they got destroyed... the RP stands in terms of why Order and 5th| worked together.. the Amenhotep has extream ties to 5th| looking as how i defected and got my SRP again. Countless captains log show how well i was with 5th| and Order| was at my side aswell.. so its no doubt both forces would come together to save an asset that they both needed.

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[Shizune]

This is an interesting turn of events. I hope you understand that we processed the report with the information that we had. I will bring this up with the rest of the staff and re-evaluate whether or not forum roleplay is able to override ID rules. It is, as you might understand, a slightly tricky subject due to the gates we open depending on the decision that will come out of it.

If you have any more information to add - both sides. Please do.

I'll of course see what I can find Spazz to help make your job a lot easier if possible, and don't worry about rushing it so far, we'll let the admins take the time they need to figure and sort the mess out.

Edit: I've found several more posts that support the reason Order and 5th were out there
Distress message to the Order and CR
Order + BAF Talk after crippling the Amenhotep

Order asking 5th to help find Kalh 1 &2

After Evac RP to change weapons
Youtube link Pt 1 of the attack from BAF & Part 2

Pictures from Kalh during fight in Penny
Order MD
Legion MD

And all other things linked above

[Kauket]

I have been asked to post here considering i am the reason both Order and 5th| forces joined forces...

Looking at my "Approved" SRP.. This shows why Order| and 5th| forces joining together.

Saving the Amenhotep was the goal... and unfortunatly Auxesia decided to trash the party and sadly they got destroyed... the RP stands in terms of why Order and 5th| worked together.. the Amenhotep has extream ties to 5th| looking as how i defected and got my SRP again. Countless captains log show how well i was with 5th| and Order| was at my side aswell.. so its no doubt both forces would come together to save an asset that they both needed.

Yes because about 4 VHFs are going to trash your Osiris and the large group of 5th that were in Penny for ages? Particularly when we weren't given the chance to even see what was happening as they were instantly engaged? We went there to satify our curiosity to see what's going up. If we're going to use 'revenge attack' as an excuse, it can also be applied here as the whole 5th and Order| cooperation is way too sudden, particularly when 5th is a loyal faction to Lib, and the fact that the jumphole was camped and where we got instant engaged. Especially when we're heavily outnumbered.

Liberty Gov. never made the Order legal in Liberty and the ID isn't like the LSF, where-as you can ally with unlawfuls. And the Comms never went out to CR - so the cry for help wasn't public inRP anyway.

In reality; Fifth wouldn't risk being in reputation with them, so associating with them would have got them into trouble, they would have pretended to be chasing them off, letting them go per under the table deals.


Concerning roleplay and forums; yeah, maybe something should be done about it, and perhaps even a form of template to make the administration/community aware of any suddenly drastic changes in diplomacy.

[Shaggy]

I have been asked to post here considering i am the reason both Order and 5th| forces joined forces...

Looking at my "Approved" SRP.. This shows why Order| and 5th| forces joining together.

Saving the Amenhotep was the goal... and unfortunatly Auxesia decided to trash the party and sadly they got destroyed... the RP stands in terms of why Order and 5th| worked together.. the Amenhotep has extream ties to 5th| looking as how i defected and got my SRP again. Countless captains log show how well i was with 5th| and Order| was at my side aswell.. so its no doubt both forces would come together to save an asset that they both needed.

Yes because about 4 VHFs are going to trash your Osiris and the large group of 5th that were in Penny for ages? Particularly when we weren't given the chance to even see what was happening as they were instantly engaged? We went there to satify our curiosity to see what's going up. If we're going to use 'revenge attack' as an excuse, it can also be applied here as the whole 5th and Order| cooperation is way too sudden, particularly when 5th is a loyal faction to Lib, and the fact that the jumphole was camped and where we got instant engaged. Especially when we're heavily outnumbered.

Liberty Gov. never made the Order legal in Liberty and the ID isn't like the LSF, where-as you can ally with unlawfuls. And the Comms never went out to CR - so the cry for help wasn't public inRP anyway.

In reality; Fifth wouldn't risk being in reputation with them, so associating with them would have got them into trouble, they would have pretended to be chasing them off, letting them go per under the table deals.


Concerning roleplay and forums; yeah, maybe something should be done about it, and perhaps even a form of template to make the administration/community aware of any suddenly drastic changes in diplomacy.

Nyx clearly you don't see everything, or you only see things you want to see.

You said about there not being a comm sent to CR for the "Cry for help" and it was't public inRP. Let me just correct you there with this.

[sindroms]

This is not a bloody discussion thread. If you have any material to submit regarding this situation, please post here addressing the staff and we will look into it.

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