Zelot, you're not a random guy who came to this server yesterday, or 2 days ago. You've been here long enough to make me sure that you pretty well know the answer to your own question. But I guess, you're asking that just to hear my opinion about it.
One can answer to your question with one sentence: "Simply because you can dock anytime." Let me explain this more precisely. The fact that you can dock any time you decide affects our RP quite much. It affects the effort from our side to put in our RP, simply because it might be a waste of words, and you dock in the middle of conversation. It affects the time, as we might waste time for the same reason. It affects our expectation for the same reason, as we're not sure if I start a different RP which demands more time and effort you will stay, don't dock and listen us till the end. The most important thing is that whatever RP my character would play there, it would end with a demand from my side, and a dock from your side, which is a big fail. The thing isn't about you docking after we state our demand, but the thing is getting refused while you're not able to do anything, but sit still and read the docking msg.
But what really disappointed me from your reply to my post is that you simply ignored the most important part of my post and all of your attention to the part which was actually secondary important. It makes me think that you simply tried to find a "word" in my post, and pressure that "word".
I'll repeat myself, diversity makes everything more interesting, and most of you fail to understand that. If you expect banal RP lines from us, we can all simply set pirating lines as setmsgs and in less than a minute you'd hear a demand from us.
(12-17-2016, 04:20 PM)Tutashkhia Wrote: Zelot, you're not a random guy who came to this server yesterday, or 2 days ago. You've been here long enough to make me sure that you pretty well know the answer to your own question. But I guess, you're asking that just to hear my opinion about it.
One can answer to your question with one sentence: "Simply because you can dock anytime." Let me explain this more precisely. The fact that you can dock any time you decide affects our RP quite much. It affects the effort from our side to put in our RP, simply because it might be a waste of words, and you dock in the middle of conversation. It affects the time, as we might waste time for the same reason. It affects our expectation for the same reason, as we're not sure if I start a different RP which demands more time and effort you will stay, don't dock and listen us till the end. The most important thing is that whatever RP my character would play there, it would end with a demand from my side, and a dock from your side, which is a big fail. The thing isn't about you docking after we state our demand, but the thing is getting refused while you're not able to do anything, but sit still and read the docking msgs.
But what really disappointed me from your reply to my post is that you simply ignored the most important part of my post and paid your all attention to the part which was actually secondary important. It makes me think that you simply tried to find a "word" in my post, and pressure that "word".
So after sitting there for 7 minutes listening to you, you didn't think I was going to stick around? The most important part of your post before seems to be that within a faction everyone is different. You're right, but within a faction, everyone's rp should be working to advance the rp of the faction. As I tried to rp with you guys for 7 minutes and have no idea anything about the faction rp, I figured I would come here. I have basicly gotten the answer that it was for the lulz.
As I stated above, the most important thing is that whatever RP my character played there it would end with a demand from my side. That's the thing, and it would be really silly from my side to demand money/cargo(or anything) from a trader who is sitting right next to the station. The thing is, if we tried a different RP, you most probably would dock after 2 or 3 minutes. That's the difference.
I'm not a member of the faction so I'm just stating my personal view here. And I stated my opinion about the fact that first you paid all your attention to the fact that one of the member RPed a different character, be it a psycho crazy female or whatever, which happened to be a bit problematic for you, and I tried to show you a good side of it. What are we discussing here by the way? If the member's RP was intended to advance the rp of the faction? If you ask me, I would say it neither lowered the rp of the faction.
Imagine a different situation: We met somewhere else, and we just simply did a banal RP and after 2-3 lines made a demand, took some money from you and let you go. What would be your idea about the faction rp after such encounter?
The thing is, if you were interested about the faction RP, you might have RPed a bit different way and asked some questions there, which wouldn't be ignored really. What I'm saying is that I can hardly say that you "tried to rp with us for 7 minutes", you didn't show any intention which would make us put our efforts and RP different way. That's how I explain that encounter.
P.S I'm trying to say that in that encounter you weren't really the one who was talkative. If you showed us any interest then you would get an adequate respond from me. If I'm wrong, pardon me. I just failed to see much attempt from you to RP with us.
P.S.S Usually encounters between traders and criminals, as you stated above, ends up quite fast with a demand from criminals and respond from the trader. If the trader in question has any interest to further see the RP of a particular player or faction, my opinion is that the trader should initiate an interest in such case.
Notice: Since of our last return, we promised to members of this group fun ony for some period until we feel like we had enough of it. We believe that period is now over and thus, we will now begin to specificaly follow the ZOI that would be requested in our specific ID.
● Zone of Influence: Omicrons, Taus, Sigmas, Drake, Chester, Newcastle, Inverness, Vespucci, Cortez, Magellan, Coronado, Baffin, Kansas, Unknown.
Notice: "The Commune operates without a clear-cut ranking structure, all core members aside from the Overlord are theoretically equal in standing and fairly autonomous, with personal goals and endeavors that contribute to the Commune's final Great Work." - line was added to closing statements section in order to explain better how the group works internally as this was meant from the beginning of it.
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(12-22-2016, 09:18 AM)The Commune Wrote: Notice: Since of our last return, we promised to members of this group fun ony for some period until we feel like we had enough of it. We believe that period is now over and thus, we will now begin to specificaly follow the ZOI that would be requested in our specific ID.
● Zone of Influence: Omicrons, Taus, Sigmas, Drake, Chester, Newcastle, Inverness, Vespucci, Cortez, Magellan, Coronado, Baffin, Kansas, Unknown.
Chester doesn't exist anymore, why request systems such as Vespucci or Inverness?
Why not just have an ID line to assist Nomads/defend their stations anywhere instead of planting ZOI at Nomad systems/stations?
Thank you to both of you for clarifying about Chester system. We thought it's better to name those systems individualy than rather put a simple line.
Vespucci because it connects us with Kansas which leads to Unknown, that we should defend from those who shouldn't go there. Inverness because simply, it connects us with Drake from other indepedent systems.
In any way, we won't be present that much in said systems as they are far from our primary region, the Omicrons and we will go down there on more RP purposes from now on but, since of who we are we need to have those included in ZOI, so we could actualy pursue and assist Nomads/Wild/Oracles if it will be needed.
As it was mentioned in previous posts, we're going back to where we should be most present.
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(12-23-2016, 10:27 PM)The Commune Wrote: Vespucci because it connects us with Kansas which leads to Unknown, that we should defend from those who shouldn't go there. Inverness because simply, it connects us with Drake from other indepedent systems.
If someone runs from Kansas whilst in an engagement, you can still chase them. Dunno why Vespucci would have to be on there. Texas and Penny is connected to Kansas - yet it's not listed. If people shouldn't go there, it should be just Kansas, not including Vespucci.
In such cases, you should also request a line to openly shoot those in Nomadic space. Gate's nebula, Drake, Iota, 99, etc. But do keep in mind you're already trying to get a terrorist ID effectively.
Also, speaking of which, are the Xenos/Legion expecting action in Kansas?
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