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Rheinland blockade by Liberty forces
Offline RingoW
05-25-2008, 09:19 AM,
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Well, i was already affected by this blockade and after some brain storming i cannot see any reason for, because Liberty economy depends on Rheinland economy and vice versa.

For example: ALG is cleaning reactors of Liberty battleships. In the countermove, ALG is producing panels and alloys also been delivered to Liberty shipyards. Diamonds are coming from Rheinland, in the countermove trade lane parts are going from Liberty to Rheinland. The list becomes longer:

military vehicles, super alloy, super conducter and many others.

So if a trader is hauling high temperature alloy hull panels and Diamonds to Norfolk, Baltimore and Manhattan from Rheinland, would Liberty authorities really force this trader to return? I'm in doubt. In the countermove, Ageira has to export their goods into Rheinland. So a wellfare of Ageira is a wellfare for Liberty to. Think about.

For the sake of liberal trading, lift this blockade!

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Offline SimonBlack
05-25-2008, 09:21 AM,
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I kind of agree. It doesnt matter if you trade for credits, but if you trade in RP this blockade messes things up.

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Offline Fletcher
05-25-2008, 10:11 AM,
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Blockades in RL can be bad for both sides. Its usually a last resort to force someone to give into demands of some sort.

Smugglers would benefit most, if they can get through.

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Offline Treewyrm
05-25-2008, 10:15 AM,
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Economical blockades and embargoes are actually fairly normal to our turbulent times. Liberty can put any blockades they want, just as any other house.
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Offline kingvaillant
05-25-2008, 02:05 PM,
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see this: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=22597

it explains the "why" about everything. I suspect more events to come once we are all in vacations.

and after all the wars, etc. Rheinland's Economy is weaker than Liberty's economy.

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Offline Dieter Schprokets
05-25-2008, 02:11 PM,
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Prior to World War One, Germany and Great Britain were each other's largest trading partners.

Sometimes, in spite of what merchants want, economics takes a back seat to politics.

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Offline mwerte
05-25-2008, 02:46 PM,
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AoM!!!! Good to see you around still.

Anyway, blockades can be VERY bad for economies, yet I see Liberty's economy rebounding easier then Rheinland's so there is pressure on the Gottkanzler to act quickly before his economy is crippled.


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Offline BaconSoda
05-25-2008, 05:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-25-2008, 05:13 PM by BaconSoda.)
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' Wrote:Anyway, blockades can be VERY bad for economies, yet I see Liberty's economy rebounding easier then Rheinland's so there is pressure on the Gottkanzler to act quickly before his economy is crippled.

I'm no economist, but I think Liberty's economy depends more on Rheinland's economy more than Rheinland depends on Liberty. Why? Rheinland exports all the raw materials Liberty needs, such as Cobalt and Copper, which are used for all the Alloys the Ageira makes. Copper is a main component of Liberty's Alloys, and although there are still trace amounts of Copper left in the Copperton fields, it's definitely not enough to fuel the needs of Ageira, which is exactly why they don't mine there anymore. There are also things like Engine Components, which Rheinland exports to Liberty, but that doesn't really affect the economy all that much.

Rheinland also doesn't need the Alloys that Liberty produces, the ALG AND Daumann produces them, and the ALG produces them even cheaper because they just recycle the waste in Sigma-13. Leipzig Station and Dortmund Station can easily be adjusted to produce Superconductors, or, the only Liberty exports to Rheinland, I mean, they already make everything else.

In short, the economy of Rheinland is far more independent than the economy of Liberty, they can last longer without Liberty's help than Liberty can without Rheinland's help.

Just what I think....

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Offline Magoo!
05-25-2008, 05:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-25-2008, 05:29 PM by Magoo!.)
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Yeah, I find it kind of stupid as well. Actually, I'd just embargo HUMAN cargo as opposed to normal cargo. Why would Liberty let spies into their space but not supplies to bolster their economies?

Anyways, this is sort of off-topic but related.

Quote: Traders,

My spies have found something quite disturbing about your flying group. It appear that one of your men, if not more..., is using one of our ship codenamed "Raven Claw". You are now formally ordered to give this ship back to Liberty Authorities. We have seen you flying in Rheinland space with it, ... ...
-David Copperfield

Excerpt from some diplomatic thing. What bothers me is, isn't sending spies into Rheinland only going to escalate hostilities? Especially in a message to a bunch of slack-jawed traders... Doesn't seem safe to me.

"So I SAYS, 'What do you mean Liberty saw us in Rheinland with their ship?' " *fall on ground, wasted*
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Offline kingvaillant
05-26-2008, 01:38 AM,
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Spies are something I didn't think about at first... I will try to find a solution (In-RP, like a story, etc).

@Magoo!, yes I realized my lil mistake(too late to change it), But I can fix it easily in RP, (ex: Ships have a signature/transponder that allow us to track them in Sirius space, etc)

Once school is over, I would like to organize more stuff with Rheinland, spice ups things a bit:P, finish a bunch of RPs, and fix a few things with laws(penal code)(Embargo)(etc) and LSF.

2 days of school left,:)

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