Where do Xenos get money?

[Zeltak]

This is just too funny, complaining that Xenos shouldn't use Eagles and other Civilian ships because "They cost too much!". Yeah right, lets all fly starfleas against your missile gunboats so the Lawfuls can win with ease.

[mjolnir]

On the other hand I'm getting tired everytime I'm around Liberty and a fight with xenos ensures around planet/station/TL... a GB or some other capship comes by... and they start complaining at once in system.

It IS supposed to be defended and there ARE supposed to be caps. You have bombers so just kill it. Capships camping Ouray is one thing, capships "camping" Fort Bush is another.

I for one am not a friend of "arranged" fights at all. Battleslots/pre-arranged battles are for those...

Oh and when I'm basically making a tread after thread about how GB missiles should use ammo, there is basically nobody there to support the idea... just critics. Then every single fighter/bomber pilot I know screams about them... :angry:

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[Zeltak]

@ Mjolnir:

I don't recall myself ever complaining at someone using gunboats ingame, or over system chat. Sure I do not like the idea of mass spamming gunboats on us, but I never complain at them for doing so. I'm merely expressing my opinions about that issue privatetly, the reason I had to mention it here, was because of this thread to begin with. You know how it is, we are all humans: One side complains the other one responds...

I apologize, I should know better than to flame back, but you tend to get angry if the enemy tries to take away a ship which is essential to engagements...

Please, I will look at the Lawfuls individually and I will stop with the: "Because this certain lawful pilot did this, that must mean the whole group is like that too", if you can do the same Mjolnir... Because there are many Xenos and all of them have different opinions, some tend to express it in-game, whilst others dont.

Since i'm pretty new, I haven't seen a thread about making GB missile turrets ammo based, i'm sorry I would have commented and search for them if I knew they existed. Now that you told me, I will go and have a look.

Also, sometimes arranged fights can be fun. If you respect eachother afterwards, if we have the ability to say good fight and understand that this was about having fun, not about winning. Then trust me, you will enjoy it too.

[ScornStar]

I dont know Ive seen it seems not leaders in Ravens talons but Taidani Bombers like maybe two different maybe three. I also noticed that there are many super nova anti matter cannons on Xeno ships.

Arent these things foriegn produced, foriegn sold, and only obtainable in foriegn space? I dont doubt that there could be stories explaining each of these ships haveing the most sophisticated weapons in Surius, is there a story I could read maybe explaining the adventures to obtain such obsure gear?

Now Im not trying to make play harder on any one, I'm in a cap most times so its not like it a big difference. I'm just wondering as to the RP. I seldom encounter them, they are always good sports with me at lease we fight almost every time. Sometimes I win but, more often than not, they do. I'm just surprised by how well equiped they are each time. I know the players are the elite, if thats the only reason then fine. Just wondering.

Respectfully Scorn.

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[n00bl3t]

I dont know Ive seen it seems not leaders in Ravens talons but Taidani Bombers like maybe two different maybe three. I also noticed that there are many super nova anti matter cannons on Xeno ships.

Arent these things foriegn produced, foriegn sold, and only obtainable in foriegn space? I dont doubt that there could be stories explaining each of these ships haveing the most sophisticated weapons in Surius, is there a story I could read maybe explaining the adventures to obtain such obsure gear?

Now Im not trying to make play harder on any one, I'm in a cap most times so its not like it a big difference. I'm just wondering as to the RP. I seldom encounter them, they are always good sports with me at lease we fight almost every time. Sometimes I win but, more often than not, they do. I'm just surprised by how well equiped they are each time. I know the players are the elite, if thats the only reason then fine. Just wondering.

Respectfully Scorn.

Supernova antimatter cannons are made by the Order. Some of the Order's pilots would have come from liberty. Link forged.

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It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[bluntpencil2001]

Xenos dont want any goods shipped into or out of liberty.

Wrong.

They want to replace the Junkers as Cardamine dealers in Liberty. Cardamine only gets produced on one planet...

Also, synth weed goes down well on their bases. And, for the record, synth weed, whilst made in the Sigmas on Atka Research Station, is actually produced by a Liberty company.

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[Baby Bonnie Hood]

I hope this doesn't spiral out of hand. I'm not complaining that Xenos shouldn't fly anything better than a Starflier, I'm just asking how they keep themselves funded. Because after all, it's not free to fly a spaceship. Ammo costs money, repairs cost money, getting blown up costs money. As a Navy soldier, I have that problem solved with a LNT. How would I do that as a Xeno?

...does it seem suspicious that I'm asking about an opposing faction?

Also, I'm sure a Xeno in a Starflier will easily kick my butt:P

[Robert.Fitzgerald]

A LNT is just as oorp as a uber-rich Xenos. Why would the Liberty Navy be trading? SA traders should be at least Universal IDd or something, at least that'll make sense...

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[I_m_rdy]

/addcash . Nuff said.

J/k, Xenos get their money under the table from Universal Shipping, or so I heard.

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[McNeo]

Universal Shipping lobbies for leniency against the Xenos.
I am sure they get money from Universal Shipping too, as only Universal shipping benefits from their hauliers being immune to attack while the foreign hauliers such as Gateway and Republican get attacked. Therefore, in return for a small amount of funding to the Xenos, the premiums on Universal Shipping transports are greatly reduced by Interspace Commerce, as they dont have to pay out insurance as much. Something like a "no claims bonus".

On the other hand, things being shipped into Liberty, as they are prey for the Xenos, can be sold at a good price. Things like Silver, Diamonds, Cardimine, Artifacts, Luxury foods and other raw materials are all needed, and an anonymous business man could sell the stolen wares and return the money to the Xenos.

The Xenos even directly raid bases and shipments arriving at their destination. I am sure the arms transport to Detroit munitions which was looted by the Xenos provided some profit.

Thats my take on things...