4.90.1 Initial - Retribution

[Emperor Tekagi]

As with the RoS, they are being removed from the game because of their small footprint for both the players and the plot.

Thats a rather meaningless explanation, there are other vanilla factions with exactly the same issues. I have to agree with Snak3 here, you shouldnt remove vanilla factions completely.

RoS isn't a vanilla faction. Nonetheless, it's lifetime has expired and no longer serves a big purpose in the development in the mod. The countless revive attempts for the faction clearly display that.

the quoted sentence is about LWBs removal

[Epo]

Will Deimos be available to indies?

[Hubjump]

Finnish bret carrier when?
Finnish this half done job.
stop prolonging this.
its done.
who's the one postponing this?
You've materialised brand spanking new ships whilst we've had a flyable bretonian carrier laying around waiting implementation to replace jynx's temp/never finnished model: https://p3d.in/6bhtj

[Lythrilux]

RoS were pretty much inconsequential to the mod and it's plot, and to be fair LWB were too.

However, I think it's still pretty bad to remove vanilla factions. This mod is supposed to be a continuation of vanilla Freelancer, so we should preserve it's elements where possible.

And I mean, RoS is a poorly written 4.85 fever dream mixed with teenage angst and tumblr fanfiction. The only thing it was really hurting was the consistency and quality of the mod. What negative impact was LWB having?

Lastly, this sets a very scary bar imo. I'd really hate to see Xenos on the chopping block next.

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[SnakThree]

Xenos, Farmer Alliance, Cryer, Synth, Planetform, Republican Shipping, OSC are all underrepresented factions... Would hate to see those go too.

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[Lythrilux]

Christ alive - if Cryer goes, how unfair would that be?

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[Corile]

Christ alive - if Cryer goes, how unfair would that be?

It already has, even if indirectly.

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[Durandal]

Removing the LWB is a trial, and I'll tell everyone now that there are not currently plans to remove any other vanilla factions from the game. Discovery is a progression of vanilla, that is true, but progression doesn't always mean everyone wins.

From a technical standpoint, we are sorely lacking in IFFs to recycle for other purposes, and we would rather cull an unused faction than break the game or see more promising groups lacking an IFF.

You've materialised brand spanking new ships whilst we've had a flyable bretonian carrier laying around waiting implementation to replace jynx's temp/never finnished model: https://p3d.in/6bhtj

Incorrect. Every ship included in this update was submitted quite awhile ago. They were part of the backlog, just as the Bretonian Carrier and Battlecruiser are. Just because you did not see the Triumph and Penance plastered all over the forums doesn't mean they weren't in development limbo for 12+ months.

[Teerin]

As stated, the removal of LWB is only a trial and my be reverted depending on the results.

No other factions are on the metaphorical "chopping block". Calm thyselves.

EDIT: Gee, thanks for the ninja there, @Durandal

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[Thyrzul]

Nearby in Omega-3, a trade lane to Planet Sprague from Freeport 1 has been implemented in concert with Deep Space Engineering and BMM.

Does this mean demands like "Big Three and nobody else, or no supplies" can be called bullcrap from now on?

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