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You guys want to get officialdom. You have a counter productive attitude to activity generation. People are citing this is not a good attitude for an official faction to have. Ignoring these concerns is not professional. If you don't want to bend all the way, try and reach a mid point at least.
Just because you disagree with people doesn't mean the admins will come and wash away their posts for you.
(07-25-2018, 09:17 AM)Sciamach Wrote: Taeni, you may actually have the honour of posting the first legitimate questsion of the night.
One that deserves at least some actual response. Once the staff have cleaned this thread up and I’ve had a chance to sleep the 3 hours I’m actually going to get before work, I’ll throw ya a full response as to your point. Sorry but I’m drained right this moment, and its late.
Cool cool! Get some sleep, Scourge.
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(07-25-2018, 09:21 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: How are the other posts not relevant?
You guys want to get officialdom. You have a counter productive attitude to activity generation. People are citing this is not a good attitude for an official faction to have. Ignoring these concerns is not professional. If you don't want to bend all the way, try and reach a mid point at least.
Just because you disagree with people doesn't mean the admins will come and wash away their posts for you.
The points you're fixated on have been addressed as much as they will be. Each side has said their piece, and no one's mind is changing.
You've left your feedback, we just disagree. On a matter that you weren't involved in to begin with.
I play IDs that raid Alpha. I've had negative experiences in the past, and want to stress the importance of this faction trying to move past those. The OC player base is in a critical state and AD has the chance to help. If you guys don't care about this... Then I can only agree with McNeo that I don't feel like AD is fit for officialdom.
When you want to take the scope of your faction to officialdom, everyone becomes involved.
You all are of course entitled to voice your opinion, but you people tend to have extreme opinions. Let's get a few things straight here.
None of you has the right to tell someone else when to log, what to log and what to do when logged. The only person you can command and put your values onto is yourself. Do not expect other people to do the stuff ingame the way you want, because nobody else is like you. Everyone has different opinions, and everyone enjoys other things in Discovery. If the AD| doesn't want to log for PvP, no matter what faction they represent or are requested to represent, then that is totally fine, because Discovery offers more than PvP. Yes, PvP is part of the roleplay environment, that doesn't change the competitive aspect and the type of gameplay about it at all, though.
If you think people don't deserve officialdom because they don't like PvP, then that is your opinion and not at all a disqualifier for officialdom. Officialdom is for all the people who are able to generate activity (positively) in any way, therefore contributing to the server. To some people that is PvP, to others that is RP, smuggling/trading, doing stuff on forum or just being able to amass people ingame if only for PvE. As long as people are staying in Discovery, logging into the server or at least have a reason to stick to the community and contribute in other ways like forum-based RP, or hell, even Skype-based RP - as that often tends to result in great stories that become part of forum-RP and ingame-RP, then that is absolutely fine. If you think Outcasts have to log for PvP, then you are wrong because the Outcasts are more than PvP, same as Corsairs are more than PvP. Major aspect, yes, but there is more. Deal with it. Outcast and Corsair ID allow for mining, smuggling, trading and more. Their IDs are containing everything a house and their IDs contain.
With that out of the way, I see from the context that things got heated up last night and when one side does so, both sides do. Justin, being unironically a sportsman and a good example of how people should be in this undeniable social network Discovery Freelancer became, swallowed his pride and reached out to ask for apology for him getting mad. If all involved people did so, simply accepting the fact that other people have other opinions - and that those opinions are okay as long as they don't actively make people leave Discovery or violate the few rules we have enforced - then this place would be a lot nicer.
Some people enjoy raids. They are not the core of the game, though, and the only person you people should pretend to be able to represent here is you and you alone. I really rather see AD| being part of the official Maltese playerbase and represent them on forums and maybe ingame in more-than-just-PvP-scenarios than have them get yelled at for not satisfying other people's PvP needs. This trend of trying to fit other people into your own set of values need to stop, because I read already of three people here questioning whether returning to Discovery was a mistake when they are met with these seemingly enforced standards.
I do hope AD| and NO- can just live with the fact they can't satisfy everyone with their set of values and that they, despite of that, stay and continue what they actually want to do, what they enjoy to do and not what other people want them to do. As long as they are entertaining people this way and enjoy the game that way themselves without violating rules, god damn, let them do what they want and you do what you want, just with other people who are more likely to do what you expect them to do.
(07-25-2018, 09:34 AM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: None of you has the right to tell someone else when to log, what to log and what to do when logged. The only person you can command and put your values onto is yourself. Do not expect other people to do the stuff ingame the way you want, because nobody else is like you. Everyone has different opinions, and everyone enjoys other things in Discovery. If the AD| doesn't want to log for PvP, no matter what faction they represent or are requested to represent, then that is totally fine, because Discovery offers more than PvP. Yes, PvP is part of the roleplay environment, that doesn't change the competitive aspect and the type of gameplay about it at all, though.
If AD| doesn't care about raids (which are a crucial part of Hispania activity and roleplay as many people can tell you) what kinds of interactions will it create instead to fill the void? This is also concerning what you will do to maintain your activity.
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