(12-28-2018, 10:51 PM)Consensus Integrity Service Wrote:
(12-28-2018, 10:40 PM)Piombo65 Wrote: ^ The question remains.
Read, it is an unregistered transport. Bretonia goes there to scan or even help the damaged transport.
And what's the problem that it's an unregistered transports if they just carry refugees?
I think that's the point as "unregistered" the Bret forces can RP it however they want. Whether there are "wanted criminals on board" or not. Isn't that all these events are anyways? just a means for RP to happen we should be more open to create elements in these than just making the event coordinator come up with EVERYTHING. Although i do find it hilarious that neither side really wants to touch 0-49 with a ten foot pole haha.
But those criminals would be still under Zoner administration, the same administration who's evacuating the planet, so they don't want to stay at the Bretonia jurisdriction. So it shouldn't be Bretonia problem. They could request the extradiction later or before this event.
Please, guys just read and stick to the text.
The refugee transports are just a RP element. Reflecting the situation of an on going evacuation.
BAF is only suppose to be there, may scan the transport, may even have the intention to help them.
The Zoner force is the "aggressive" part in this and attacks BAF. It is a RESISTANCE force.
So basically, you want some people to turn up so that you can shoot them, seeing as nobody has taken up on the 'Contested Territory' part of O-49.
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(12-28-2018, 11:42 PM)Consensus Integrity Service Wrote:
(12-28-2018, 10:51 PM)Consensus Integrity Service Wrote: Some Stuff..
The Zoner force is the "aggressive" part in this and attacks BAF. It is a RESISTANCE force.
It makes a 1000% more sense for an "aggressive" Zoner force to attack Stirling than it does for them to attack BAF members who may be helping a zoner refugee convoy.
I don't know. After five pages of people saying this isn't fly and not a single registration so far, I don't think this is going to fly. Not under these criteria. It looks like this is something like the Oracle event where people create the event to pretend things have been happening in a certain way ingame, and I see the potential of this being used from the Zoner CIS side to make it look like Bretonia is attacking refugee transports, while Bretonia inRP and ooRP has been acting in an opposite way, making clear Zoners can leave. There is not much reason for Bretonia to scan outgoing transports because they are not interested in the Zoners but in the planetary facilities.
Bretonia players won't play into your hands like that, in such a scenario. If it was about a pew of the pew's sake, the scenario could easily be changed to something else, but you're obviously adamant about it staying like this.
If you just wanted pews, as has been mentioned before, make a zoner/Corsair Vs baf event, forget the refugee ship stuff and say that it's an attempt to resist the invasion by militant Zoner factions. For event purposes let's say that zoners who attend aren't as a result declared kill on sight in Bretonia after the event because they took part, unless that's their RP
(12-28-2018, 05:17 PM)Capt. Henry Morgan Wrote: Honestly, I think all of the O49 RP since the Stirling was moved in should be retconned and give everyone involved a second chance to not make a total mess of it. Nobody planned for this story development, so it's no surprise it took us all off guard and we made a mess trying to hurry and accomodate all our various RP plans for it.
The invasion and annexation should've been pitched as the first step in an anti-Corsair campaign. It'd be an additional front in the Gallic war since Crete is allied with Gallia. Taking GC robs the Corsairs of a major food source and is a good way for Bretonia to put pressure on them. The Zoners should've been at best an afterthought.
Since that's not going to happen, though, we'll have to try to untangle things as we go. This event isn't going to do it, though. Bretonia might be an imperialist, expansionist power, but it's not into genocide or shooting refugee transports. I'm not opposed to doing something, but forcing Bretland to act out of character isn't it. I'd go back to the drawing board and coordinate with the Admiralty Board for an event that works for everyone.
I was kind of against it but I now have to agree that a retcon of the O49 thing would probably be best, let this plot be put off until after it doesn't seem like bretonia is biting off more than it can chew. It is also a shame because Bretonia has lost a bit of respect over the move. And now no one from Bretonia's side can touch it. No one knows what the aim of having Stirling in the system right now is. It only has stirred a lot of anti-Bretonian craziness and sucked a lot of attention away from New London. I hate to say it but right when we needed to focus on a planetary siege of our capital, bad decisions have somewhat sabotaged our stance.
(12-28-2018, 05:17 PM)Capt. Henry Morgan Wrote: Honestly, I think all of the O49 RP since the Stirling was moved in should be retconned and give everyone involved a second chance to not make a total mess of it. Nobody planned for this story development, so it's no surprise it took us all off guard and we made a mess trying to hurry and accomodate all our various RP plans for it.
The invasion and annexation should've been pitched as the first step in an anti-Corsair campaign. It'd be an additional front in the Gallic war since Crete is allied with Gallia. Taking GC robs the Corsairs of a major food source and is a good way for Bretonia to put pressure on them. The Zoners should've been at best an afterthought.
Since that's not going to happen, though, we'll have to try to untangle things as we go. This event isn't going to do it, though. Bretonia might be an imperialist, expansionist power, but it's not into genocide or shooting refugee transports. I'm not opposed to doing something, but forcing Bretland to act out of character isn't it. I'd go back to the drawing board and coordinate with the Admiralty Board for an event that works for everyone.
I was kind of against it but I now have to agree that a retcon of the O49 thing would probably be best, let this plot be put off until after it doesn't seem like bretonia is biting off more than it can chew. It is also a shame because Bretonia has lost a bit of respect over the move. And now no one from Bretonia's side can touch it. No one knows what the aim of having Stirling in the system right now is. It only has stirred a lot of anti-Bretonian craziness and sucked a lot of attention away from New London. I hate to say it but right when we needed to focus on a planetary siege of our capital, bad decisions have somewhat sabotaged our stance.
Just no, retcons are nearly always pest. Bretonia can basically just RP a retreat from Omega-49 and that's it.
(12-28-2018, 11:42 PM)Consensus Integrity Service Wrote:
(12-28-2018, 11:12 PM)Piombo65 Wrote:
(12-28-2018, 11:05 PM)andytv22 Wrote:
(12-28-2018, 10:56 PM)Piombo65 Wrote:
(12-28-2018, 10:51 PM)Consensus Integrity Service Wrote: Read, it is an unregistered transport. Bretonia goes there to scan or even help the damaged transport.
And what's the problem that it's an unregistered transports if they just carry refugees?
I think that's the point as "unregistered" the Bret forces can RP it however they want. Whether there are "wanted criminals on board" or not. Isn't that all these events are anyways? just a means for RP to happen we should be more open to create elements in these than just making the event coordinator come up with EVERYTHING. Although i do find it hilarious that neither side really wants to touch 0-49 with a ten foot pole haha.
But those criminals would be still under Zoner administration, the same administration who's evacuating the planet, so they don't want to stay at the Bretonia jurisdriction. So it shouldn't be Bretonia problem. They could request the extradiction later or before this event.
Please, guys just read and stick to the text.
The refugee transports are just a RP element. Reflecting the situation of an on going evacuation.
BAF is only suppose to be there, may scan the transport, may even have the intention to help them.
The Zoner force is the "aggressive" part in this and attacks BAF. It is a RESISTANCE force.
Aahhh ok. But there's another problem. Zoners are pacifists and the only enemy they "declared war" are the Nomads and they could also attack in self-defense. Why some Zoners "extremists" should declare war on a house that has just said "please go away that we don't want to be Gallic slaves" and not "Ok zoners, we hate you because yes and we want to rival the Corsair about the enemies number!"? If the answer is "Because it's considered an aggression for the zoners" so this is the proof that a very pacifist faction (like zoner vanilla) never existed.