(01-02-2019, 04:19 AM)Burning Wrote: You can't compare the colonization of America with the colonization of Sirius. Last time I checked, native americans weren't a whole different species created with the sole purpose of defending their land. What the ♥♥♥♥.
The war between Alliance and Coalition didn't break out suddenly 800 Freelancer years ago. 1 AS is one year after settlement in Sirius. I don't know how long the war has been present beforehand, but it doesn't sound unrealistic that it's been there for a few hundred freelancer years.
Quote:Did nobody bring any history texts from Earth on the sleeper ships, prior to the evacuation?
If we didn't then how do we know we are still human?
You're making a huge mistake here. In the intro, when they said they have forgotten the reasons of the Coalition - Alliance war, they didn't mean they literally forgot the reasons. What they were expressing is that the war has been going on for so long and has taken so many casualties that the reasons they had to begin the war were no more relevant to continue the war.
(01-02-2019, 03:49 AM)Burning Wrote: I misunderstood your concept earlier. So you're basically nomad infected individuals connected to one another, right? You should clarify this, as Nomads are a whole different species and your idea can be misunderstood easily.
In addition, I recommend you to treat your "group" not as a faction (which is what you do by posting about it here), but to simply write down RP about your individuals, stating that your character is nomad infected and then RP with one anothers characters in order to establish the network between them.
I did try this the way you want me to, Burning - stating that my character is Nomad-infected in a group and RPing it out - but the group ended up saying I needed to post this here on the forums to make it "official".
(01-02-2019, 04:15 AM)Silverlight Wrote: Why aren't more people concerned about the basis of this faction being grounded on using multiple IDs?
I tried but the rules and how the game works appear lost on this one. Odds are this will end in admins stepping in saying NO and that will be that.
WE ARE NOT NOMADS AND WE ARE NOT A FACTION. We are infected, but we have complete control over who we are.
AND BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A FACTION, WE DO NOT USE MULTIPLE IDS!
I have now stated this twice. Once in the original post, and a second time here.
PLEASE RE-READ THE ORIGINAL POST, it has been edited MULTIPLE times and now states this MULTIPLE times (six times, in fact.) @"Silverlight" and @freelancerknux!
This goes against everything established in canon lore and if I'm being completely honest, it feels a little "Mary Sue" to me. The infected don't serve themselves anymore, they become pawns of the nomads and do whatever is needed of them.
In short, there is simply no scope for this concept to work because infection doesn't work the way you think it can. You're still going to get shot at by every human faction simply because of the lore implications of being infected. If you want to try playing the middle ground between being infected and being yourself, look at the Commune.
(01-02-2019, 05:30 AM)Reeves Wrote: This goes against everything established in canon lore and if I'm being completely honest, it feels a little "Mary Sue" to me. The infected don't serve themselves anymore, they become pawns of the nomads and do whatever is needed of them.
In short, there is simply no scope for this concept to work because infection doesn't work the way you think it can. You're still going to get shot at by every human faction simply because of the lore implications of being infected. If you want to try playing the middle ground between being infected and being yourself, look at the Commune.
I dunno about that. I've found at least one Human faction that is open to this.
I don't know if they're here, but in game the characters all start with ND-TV.
Dawnseeker is the one I spoke to and he recommended that I say something on the Forum about this.
Also, someone earlier (I think It was Burning) mentioned an idea that he (or she) had.
We are Infected that were separated from the mindshare/hive due to research done by The Order. So we now serve ourselves once more.
And we might even serve our saviors, The Order, Life-Debt style. I mean, we do owe them our lives for saving us from becoming like the other Infected.
(01-02-2019, 05:30 AM)Reeves Wrote: This goes against everything established in canon lore and if I'm being completely honest, it feels a little "Mary Sue" to me. The infected don't serve themselves anymore, they become pawns of the nomads and do whatever is needed of them.
In short, there is simply no scope for this concept to work because infection doesn't work the way you think it can. You're still going to get shot at by every human faction simply because of the lore implications of being infected. If you want to try playing the middle ground between being infected and being yourself, look at the Commune.
I dunno about that. I've found at least one Human faction that is open to this.
I don't know if they're here, but in game the characters all start with ND-TV.
Dawnseeker is the one I spoke to and he recommended that I say something on the Forum about this.
Also, someone earlier (I think It was Burning) mentioned an idea that he (or she) had.
We are Infected that were separated from the mindshare/hive due to research done by The Order. So we now serve ourselves once more.
And we might even serve our saviors, The Order, Life-Debt style. I mean, we do owe them our lives for saving us from becoming like the other Infected.
(01-01-2019, 11:14 PM)Saphira123456 Wrote: Every mutation starts out small - and we don't know if the Nomads have been around longer than the millions or billions of years you need for such an evolution.
Also, you're forgetting the "mechanical" part of biomechanical.
I can draw a similar comparison to the Borg Collective of Star Trek, who - like the Nomad Peacekeepers - were once a violent race seeking only to assimilate.
Now though, they have another sub-faction - the Borg Cooperative - who are still Borg, and are still a Collective, AND YET they are not.
It all started with one random act of kindness between someone who hated the Borg (namely Jean-Luc Picard, my favorite Trek character - and an off-topic tale for another time) and a disconnected Borg Drone who became known as Hugh.
What is to say the same, cannot happen here?
You said it; "starts small". Not suddenly and in a very less time. Star Trek then has his sci-fi rules of nature as Freelancer has his one. The main conflict started 26 years ago, the hostilities 826 (or even very less) years ago. It's a very little period of time to make an evolution process happen. Nomads still remember what the humans have done and the mindshare has still the decision to annihilate them all, using even his human slaves and sympathizers promising them "high knowledge" when, at last of this infinite conflict, they will be annihilated them too or abandoned without orders like every being indoctrinated by the Reapers of Mass Effect triology.
I am not about to start this as a faction, never was.
Someone decided I should post on the forums so to make it official, but apparently that was a bad idea.
I should have just done what Burning suggested.
Mods, please leave this thread here and lock it so that no posts can be written on it. I want my in game friends to see evidence that I tried to make it "official".