Battlecruisers

[Colonel Z.e.r.o.]

I've been thinking about it's ability as a BC and I think all BCs should have thrusters making faster (cruiser speed) than battleships but with proper armament like 4 instead of 2 BS hard points (battleship fire power). as for as the armor goes, meh, they have on average 10-40k more armor than the leading cruiser (Rhineland cruiser). It would also make sense for a BC to have better strafing ability as well seeing as (in this game BS have superior strafing abilities) Obviously a price increase should be in order maybe from 230 mil to around 350 mil (half as much as the average BS)

There could be other versions of a BC too

I'll use the BH BC as an example

Panzer version: Heavy weaponry (4 bs turrets) and armor slow as a brick ( keep the thruster so it maintains it's cruiser-like speed) and powerful strafing abilities

Jager version: (yes I'm using the liger-00's CAS names): Less firepower (2 or even 1 BS turrets) and armor (still more than the average cruiser) much more agile like a regular destroyer with not as good as panzer strafing abilities.

Another note: I think all (except GBs maybe) capships should have better strafing abilities to cope with evading bomber fire a bit better

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[Muleo]

Completely wrong.

The BCs atm are too strong, compared to other ships (and you cant use the Rheinland cruiser for comparison, rheinland capships have huuuge armor, have you seen the Rheinland battleships armor?).

If anything, they need to have the same stats, and have the cost driven up to the same price as battleships (without the need to buy a BS license) so about 400~500 million

[ian]

as far as people saying that BC's being over-powered people obviously havent flown an Albatross... heck an Outcast/Rouge destroyer (which is equal to a cruiser class which is technically below the BC) can take one out

i agree with those upgrades, they are meant as a bridge between Cruisers and Battleships but at their current state they are just Cruisers with 2 BS turrents and an extended power supply

2 bombers is all you need to take out a BC very easily

[Colonel Z.e.r.o.]

ian: Word Necrosis used his his strengths to compensate for his weaknesses.


To coke mule:

1. Well that's why they're called "battle"-"cruisers" they should defiantly be able to over power another cruiser mean while elude a heavy battleship.

2. OK I'll use the lib cruiser only 60k less armor than the heaviest armored BC.

3. So what you're saying is give it cruiser stats power plant etc. for almost the same price as a BS?

(And everyone, don't turn this into anther grudge fest.)

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[Muleo]

but at their current state they are just Cruisers with 2 BS turrents and an extended power supply

JUST a cruiser with 2 bs turrets and a bigger power supply? Those are HUGE upgrades over a cruiser

2 bombers is all you need to take out a BC very easily

As they should do?

[Eternal]

Am ... no to all of your points.

For the writer above >

Sir , it takes two bombers to kill everything these days. Whats your point ?

BC are not Cruisers with 2 BS turrets. They have much larger power cores and emence armor. These ships are overpowered , not because they are uber. Heck , I kill them easy with a BS and If I can kill the second highest rank of ship with my highest rank of ship (The BS) , the every BS pilot can get them. The fact why they are so strong , is that they cost vertully nothing! For a misarble 300m you almost get a BS ! With 500m to spare.

edit - I just saw that *ian* was using Mon'Star as a comperason.... He is probly the best Cruiser pilot of the server... don't expect to get him easily...

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[Muleo]

To coke mule:

1. Well that's why they're called "battle"-"cruisers" they should defiantly be able to over power another cruiser mean while elude a heavy battleship.

2. OK I'll use the lib cruiser only 60k less armor than the heaviest armored BC.

3. So what you're saying is give it cruiser stats power plant etc. for almost the same price as a BS?

(And everyone, don't turn this into anther grudge fest.)

I don't know how you're flying your BC, but a BH BC absolutely CAN over power another cruiser. It CAN take on a battleship if the battleship isn't flown right.

I've had my Legate (cap7), almost destroyed by a BH BC once, and OK, the legate is a bit underpowered, but I'm not a noob capship pilot, so it was pretty impressive to see.

at point 3.
Yes. It's current combination makes it a looot better than a cruiser, and considering how many BH abuse the BC, the price should be upped to discourage anyone else buying them.

[Colonel Z.e.r.o.]

The power supply only serves to cope for anti-capship weapons like mortars, infernos and razors other wise if you're looking to be energy efficient just get some nomad or zoner turrets.

The OC dessie in mind used the fact that his ship is the 2 (3rd?) most agile of the destroyer class.

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[Tenacity]

So after you proved last night that you have no interest in RP'ing with your BH BC, you want it made more powerful? Is it because you got beaten by a battleship?

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[Muleo]

The power supply only serves to cope for anti-capship weapons like mortars, infernos and razors other wise if you're looking to be energy efficient just get some nomad or zoner turrets.

which is oorp...

Panzer version: Heavy weaponry (4 bs turrets) and armor slow as a brick ( keep the thruster so it maintains it's cruiser-like speed) and powerful strafing abilities

Do you have any idea how a gunboat kills a battleship? By strafing.
You want to give something which has cruiser+ armor, 4 battleship guns, that can strafe good? That would literally rape any battleship out there.