Deterrence [DTR] - Feedback

[McKarnigan]

I'll tell you what I see.

How all fights end, hunting down the remnants of the losing side.

And I'll also tell you what I see, a guy who gets angry because for once he's been the hunted.

DTRs may have many flaws like everyone else, but at least they don't complain when they get swept away again and again in almost every fight they participate in.

And wishing they lose their official status defines you more as a person than it does them for the supposed ganking.

I know how I behave when I get mad, but I won't apologize for it, because you DTR as a whole have lost all my respect and am saying this as an ex 3rd IC. The amount of copium and excuses I've heard tonight is unbelievable. You are an official faction, you are supposed to set an example, but all you're capable of is dump big numbers of ships onto your enemies. We are a small community. It's not like everyone can spawn out of thin air the numbers that DTR can gather. Learn to f behave like an official faction should

I'm not in DTR and I don't even have Corsair alts, don't think that everything here is personal

[Nepotu]

Well thanks for proving my point. I mean, you were supposed to defend them, not tank DTR's reputation even more. You should have definitely run through someone in HC what you wrote above. Aaaaanyway...

the game and server rules allow this "problem" to be solved through two relatively easy options: events, which are protected by the server rules, and Connecticut, protected by the same rules.

1.0 - Don't be a dick. It's a game, try to keep it fun for everyone playing it. Behavior that falls within the technical letter of the rules but not the spirit won't be tolerated.

It does not break any rule, but sometimes common sense should be used, unless you are some uga buga cave man and don't know what that is. If that's the case.....yeah....

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outside those controlled environments, everything and anything goes. People react to a ping, log their ships in their favorite faction, and go in for the action. It is that simple.

"Log the other faction!" - "No! I like to be corsair", says Jimmy the new corsair. "Stop firing, Jimmy!" - "No! I didn't log to do nothing! I want to use my new guns!" - and so on and on.

What will even factions do? Kick Jimmy out of the faction? Will this solve anything? Did this ever solve anything, or now we have trigger happy indies going around? Will the OF faction tell the indie to stop shooting an enemy? If the DTR tag didn't exist, would these complaints exist?

In the end, people log their ships to play the game they way they want, and you can't do anything about it. There's no wiggle room for a rule-based approach, either, or people will start getting sanctioned and banned left and right. Mostly groups of new players or indies. I don't even know how banning people for playing the game within their right as given by the rules would be justified.

I see you stick to the same argument that you presented in discord. Various people with a better reputation than mine explained that there are ways to deal with this. You straight up said it impossible despite saying you didn't even try (your words when I asked if you even tried to keep them at bay). If little Jimmy doesn't want to stand down, did it ever cross your narrow mind to be the better man and stand down yourself? Let little Jimmy and the other 2-3 little Daves and Mikes have their fun. If they win both sides have fun, if they lose go in, take the kill and both sides have fun. You can set an example and later on explain why we should have a bit of sportsmanship. Maybe little Jimmy has a better judgement than you think of him and tomorrow little Jimmy will be the one standing down to let you have fun.

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I've been hearing a lot of "DTR should follow the OF standard/etiquette/etc" - this goes against DTR's principles. It is no secret to anyone that DTR is a community, not a traditional faction.

Not only you say DTR should not have the official status, but you outright insult all other OFs who set or at least try to set a standard in this small community. DTR may be a community, but don't know if my forum or game client are broken, but as far as I know we're still in Discovery Gaming Community and not Deterrence Gaming Community. If it wasn't for this place you were nothing.

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DTR's member count and monthly activity

1g of silver is better than 1 bag of shit. Quality >> Quantity just in case you miss the analogy

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Regarding today at Delta, the battle started even, and Wild/Nomad players logged off when they saw DTR, unbalancing the upcoming battle.

You are so right saying that it started even. Zoners + Aux had pretty much the same numbers and ship class as Wild + Nomads as in ~8 small crafts and ~3 caps. You all decided that would be nice to drop 8 caps on 2 of ours which is kind of a dick move. Wild/Nomad players did not logged off, they went to switch to caps asap to try and help me

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[Kauket]

WhaT are you smoking, the fight wasn't even to start with lol

Dtr did bring waaay too many caps tho

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[Arcana]

Its about showing respect in 1vs8 and disengage as the other factions do. Yes, you got the numbers, congratulations, anyways the guy you ganked today, yesterday and one month ago will finally say F why i am even bothering playing and go play something else. GG WP. Keep growing.

PS Nepo, Learn your tactics!

[Mr.Chow]

Its about showing respect in 1vs8 and disengage as the other factions do. Yes, you got the numbers, congratulations, anyways the guy you ganked today, yesterday and one month ago will finally say F why i am even bothering playing and go play something else. GG WP. Keep growing.

Well, I suggest you guys(all of you) take a deep breath first.
Nepo,you are making a fool of yourself, point 1.
point 2: you're all crying because dtr always shows up with more people at fights, have you ever thought that most people have no pvp experience?
and on the subject of ganking: it's okay if DTR is ganked, but if it's the other way around just ONCE, there's a lot of crying, threats are made to terrorize DTR in the game and so on.
point 3: on the subject of pvp, since the 5.0 update pvp has become shit (my opinion)
Nowadays you have to sweat it out to even have a chance against experienced PvP players, the casual PvP player is left out.
And no, I was not involved in the fight.


PS Nepo: You was the 3IC???
Why you left your position?
Cuz dtr was losing every battle and you got frustrated and now you are bullying dtr.
Lol
grow up, boy

[Ramke]

To give some positive feedback rather than the usual rantposting,

I appreciate what DTR is doing bringing activity and fights to other houses on their own, and letting new players have fun with them. I hope you continue what you're doing because it brings much needed activity and large fleet fights to otherwise dead areas.

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[Seapanda]

If you're incapable of leaving constructive feedback without resorting to insulting people or entire factions then stay off the forums. Nobody asked for your toxicity here.

Also, do yourself and everyone else a favour and do go play something else. This game seems to have a negative effect on you. Take a break.

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Skill issue

[Nika]

@DiscoveryGC Moderators I summon thee.

[Fab]

nothing has changed in 16 years - it won't change now.

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